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Maximum level for a fire alarm

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Didier - 22 May 2007 15:57 GMT
We had our monthly fire drill today, so I pulled out my B&K 2232 and
measured the (A-weighted) sound level to be 110dB at about 4 feet,
mike perpendicular to sound source in the hallway and 108dB just
outside my office.

Can somebody point me to regulations about acceptable sound levels for
fire alarms? Would OSHA regulate State of Maryland facilities? People
complain of transient ear pain when we have one of these exercises.

TIA!
Don Pearce - 22 May 2007 16:05 GMT
>We had our monthly fire drill today, so I pulled out my B&K 2232 and
>measured the (A-weighted) sound level to be 110dB at about 4 feet,
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>TIA!

It used to be 120dBA, but now it is 110dBA, so your system is just
compliant.

http://www.aes.org/e-lib/browse.cfm?elib=13597

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Noral Stewart - 25 May 2007 02:05 GMT
As you see from the first response there are two sides of this issue.  you
were concerned that OSHA or someone would limit the loudness so as to
protect your ears.  The other side of the issue is to make them loud enough
that they are heard.

The basic problem with these warnings appears to be that no one wants to
spend the money on enough signal devices that good coverage could be
provided without very loud levels near the individual devices.  Thus, they
use a few very loud devices to assure the most distant listener probably
through a few doors and walls will hear them, resulting in those closer to
the device getting far more sound than is necessary.  With a warning device
in every room, it should not have to be so loud.

> We had our monthly fire drill today, so I pulled out my B&K 2232 and
> measured the (A-weighted) sound level to be 110dB at about 4 feet,
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> TIA!
Tony - 25 May 2007 11:06 GMT
> The basic problem with these warnings appears to be that no one wants to
> spend the money on enough signal devices that good coverage could be
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> the device getting far more sound than is necessary.  With a warning
> device in every room, it should not have to be so loud.

I think this must be a universal problem, I have found exactly the same in
the UK.  Because the exposure to high sound level from walking past a
sounder doesn't normally last very long, and hopefully only happens
occasionally, normal calculations would show that there is no risk to
hearing, so no-one is likely to do anything about it.  However the noise
could well cause temporary loss of hearing and is likely to set off a
tinnitus attack in some people who are prone to noise induced tinnitus.

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Mark B - 29 May 2007 14:05 GMT
> > The basic problem with these warnings appears to be that no one wants to
> > spend the money on enough signal devices that good coverage could be
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In the US the required sound levels are set by NFPA 13, the Fire Alarm
Code.  Most states adopt this by reference.  The code says that the
audible notification device sound level is to be a minimum of 75 dBA
and at least 15 above the average ambient noise level.  The maximum
permissible SPL is 120 dB.

In this area (upstate NY), these systems are design either by
electrical engineers or the fire alarm system rep.  It is a rare
project indeed when anyone does any calculations.

Mark
 
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