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Natural Science Forum / Physics / Acoustics / July 2007



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Ron - 26 Jun 2007 08:25 GMT
Hi, All;

More out of obsession than anything else, I've set about making one of
Star Trek's "Vulcan harps" more or less from the plans that are
floating around the Web. The harp is to have nineteen 0.017" strings--
probably electric guitar strings, but maybe not-- supported by a
1-1/2" thick walnut neck.

I have faith in the wood neck alone, but others think the neck won't
be able to hold under so much pressure, so as a way to avoid any
unpleasant surprises, I intend to use two pieces of wood instead of
one for the neck and route out a pocket in the bottom piece where I'll
put a [reasonably] thin piece of hardened steel in it, then glue the
two halves of the neck together. Structurally, that should act like
the equivalent of a curved truss rod and provide good support for
whatever number of strings (commercial Vulcan harps have twenty-four
strings) I care to use. My question is, does anybody have any ideas on
whether such a scheme would dampen the sound quality of the neck or
influence it all?

Ron
Ron - 26 Jun 2007 08:33 GMT
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P.S:

    This is no joke. Photos of the template for the frame are in the
Photo section of several woodworking groups as ae the plans-- or the
most important part of them, anyway.

Ron
Ron
Asbjørn - 26 Jun 2007 20:02 GMT
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I find several designs on the web, with varying number of strings and string
layouts.
This one seem to deal most with the electronic part:
http://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/vulcan-harp-construction-plans.php
I do however not have any strong opinions about the construction of this
harp,
but it seems that you may have misunderstood the function of guitar neck
truss rods.
They do not contribute directly to the bending stiffness of the neck, as
that would require far greater thickness.
Truss rods are stretch loaded, and as they lie on the opposide side of the
fretboard than does the strings,
the stretch load on the truss rod outbalances the stretch load from the
strings.
This seems harder to obtain on the Vulcan harp design.
As a mechanical engineer I would  may be fabricate the neck from solid
aluminium.....

Good luck to you.

Asbjørn
Ron - 26 Jun 2007 23:32 GMT
On Jun 26, 12:02 pm, "Asbj?rn" <asbj...@frisurf.no> wrote:

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Now where would be the class in that? <g>

The plans call for 2 x 4s which would be an inch and a half thick, but
the walnut I've found, as well as several other good woods that could
be used for the neck, these come in sheets  two inches thick; -- I
suppose that alone would give me enough structural integrity without
any "external" help. I just don't want to find out that I was wrong
the hard way.  ;-)

Ron

Ron
Ergonaut - 13 Jul 2007 19:31 GMT
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Must be nice to have that kind of time!
 
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