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strange behavior of te piezoceramics

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sl.physics@gmail.com - 07 Jul 2007 07:06 GMT
I am working on a project concerned with sonoluminescence,in which we
have to create standing ultrasonic waves in water inside a 250cc
flask. Testing the piezoceramics I encountered with two problems:
1. The amplitude of the waves, which have been propagated to the water
(detected by a microphone), differs when I change the pole of the
ceramic that contacts with the flask, i.e. when (-) pole is connected
to the flask, the amplitude is so much lower than the connection of
(+) pole of the ceramic to the flask.
2. The resonance frequency differs for the connection of (-) and (+)
poles to the flask as described above, e.g. for (-) pole it resonates
at around 21200Hz, but for (+) pole it happens at about 21500Hz.
Please let me know if this behavior is natural or not.
Also please explain what I can do for solving the problem.
Don Pearce - 07 Jul 2007 11:14 GMT
>I am working on a project concerned with sonoluminescence,in which we
>have to create standing ultrasonic waves in water inside a 250cc
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>Please let me know if this behavior is natural or not.
>Also please explain what I can do for solving the problem.

Is the transducer mechanically symmetrical - more to the point, what
is it?

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GregS - 09 Jul 2007 13:34 GMT
>>I am working on a project concerned with sonoluminescence,in which we
>>have to create standing ultrasonic waves in water inside a 250cc
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>Is the transducer mechanically symmetrical - more to the point, what
>is it?

Is the driving force symetrical or have any DC offsets?

greg
sl.physics@gmail.com - 10 Jul 2007 16:53 GMT
> In article <468f6744.599359...@news.plus.net>, nos...@nospam.com (Don Pearce) wrote:
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Dear Greg
would you please explain what you mean by symmetrical driving?
i am using a function generator at about 21kHz and amplifying it by a
power amolifier,then toward the ceramics. you may ought to visit
figure 2 of http://techmind.org/sl/index.html.
looking forward to your reply.
sl.physics@gmail.com - 10 Jul 2007 16:56 GMT
> >I am working on a project concerned with sonoluminescence,in which we
> >have to create standing ultrasonic waves in water inside a 250cc
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> Pearce Consultinghttp://www.pearce.uk.com

Dear Dave
As I have asked the ceramics must behave symmetrically. The project
which I work I am concerned about if it will perturb the symmetric
acoustic pressure inside the fluide.Please explain more if you have
experienced such a matter. I think http://techmind.org/sl/index.html
will be helpful for the electronic circuit.

Sincerely yours
A. A. Ahangary
 
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