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Calibration Samples for ASTM C384

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Hucheng - 01 Aug 2007 16:11 GMT
Hi,

I have set up an indepance tube to measure the sound absorption
coefficients of certain materials, following ASTM C384-04: "Standard
Test Method for Impedance and Absorption of Acoustical Materials by
Impedance Tube Method". The problem is that I don't know how accurate
this measuring system is. If I have a calibration (or reference)
sample with known acoustic property, I will be able to check the
accuracy of the system. Could anybody tell me how to find such
calibration (or reference) samples?

Thank you very much.

Hucheng
angelo Campanella - 01 Aug 2007 23:15 GMT
> I have set up an indepance tube to measure the sound absorption
> coefficients of certain materials, following ASTM C384-04: "Standard
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> accuracy of the system. Could anybody tell me how to find such
> calibration (or reference) samples?

    The method is absolute is some regards. If you measure an infinite
standing wave ratio with a heavy terminating plate (steel block), and if
the SWR is virtually 1.00 : 1.00 whne the tube is termintaed with
another tube of the same diameter filled with fiberglass batt for
several feet, then all data you take with practical samples are accurate.

There is no other way to get a high precision. Often a group of testing
laboratories send a single sample around to each other ("Round Robin")
to verify precision, or to gather data for a precsion and bias
declaration for their test apparatus and laboratory.

    Angelo Campanella
Anonymous - 02 Aug 2007 02:23 GMT
> > I have set up an indepance tube to measure the sound absorption
> > coefficients of certain materials, following ASTM C384-04: "Standard
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>     Angelo Campanella

Another possibility would be to terminate the tube with a perforated plate and to compare the measured impedance with the theoretical calculation (Beranek)
Hucheng - 08 Aug 2007 18:07 GMT
Hi,

Thank you guys for your helpful information.

I contacted Bruel & Kjaer, a manufacturer of acoustic measuring
equipments. They told me they carry the reference sample, but that is
for a system they build up for ASTM E 1050. They also told me that
ASTM C384 is outdated compared to ASTM E 1050. Do you have any
experience with ASTM E 1050? Meanwhile, do you think I should switch
to ASTM E 1050 and buy Bruel & Kjaer's equipment?

Regards,

Hucheng

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Savant - 08 Aug 2007 21:09 GMT
Both methods are active and current standards.  FYI: The C384 standard
was most recently updated; hence the "-04" designation.  The E1050
standard was last updated in '98.

They are two different methods of getting the same general results.
The E1050 method utilizes a two-microphone technique, whereas the C384
method, I believe, employs the more "traditional" standing-wave
technique.

There is a good treatment of both methods in the Cox & D'Antonio book,
"Acoustic Absorbers and Diffusers".

As for the calibration (or reference?) sample, I guess I'm not
convinced you need such a thing.  While I have heard of reference
materials used in round-robin testing (mentioned above) of certified
reverb chambers, I have not heard of a similar thing for impedence
tubes.  That's not to say it doesn't exist - I just can't see the
point.  The chamber method does not provide a finite range of
absorption coefficients like the impedence tube does, so round-robin
testing for the former is a requirement to make sure that the various
different chambers are getting the same general results for the same
type and amount of material.  (The fact that they often aren't even
close to the same results is another story...)

Contrastingly, the impendence tube can only provide absorption
coefficients between 0.0 and 1.0.  Additionally, no material will
yield a 1.0 result using either method (C384 or E1050).  Since either
method provides a no-sample versus sample relative absorption, you
shouldn't need to calibrate it (or reference it) to anything.  As Ang
mentioned above, the impedence tube (either method) is absolute, to a
degree.

Is this wrong?

All the best,

Savant
 
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