>>Another system that uses coded signals on a single pair of
>>wires is coming into use. This makes it much easier to add a new
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>>It occurs to me that using sound you could communicate to
>>the valves quite handily.
The range will be no better perhaps less figure the distance that a
chuch bell can be heard.. or these days (Ohio) tornado sirens. Daytime
is worst since refratin tilts the sound path upwards. At night, the
pathis tilted down, but if the sound is audible, there will be
neighborly complaints. if its ultrasonc, range is shortened. Infrasoninc
(jungle drums) might work, but bandwidth is limited.
>>The data rate is very low. Valves are typically on for 15
>>minutes 1-4 times per day, and off for the rest of the day. If a
>>controller issued
>>only 1 set of valve commands per minute, it could control
>>hundreds of
>>valves. Typically a control sequence would work as follows:
A twisted pair of wires comes to mind with tone encoding like tone
dialing for telephones. I think this is the best route.
It may also be possible, if all piping is metallic, to transmit that as
modulation of a vlf radio current (10 kHz to 100 kHz) carrier in that
piping, as in telegraph lines in days of old, using an earth return.
>>Because valves have a tiny battery and a latching solenoid
>>they don't
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>>Multiple controllers could run on the same network, using
>>different frequencies.
This is all old well known technology, practiced, instrumented,
stockpiled and price competitive. A good way to go IMHO.
>>So: My question for the physics community: Is this even
>>remotely workable?
About as reliable as jungle drums (at night only).
>> I can see the follwoing problems:
>>1. Echoes off of corners and connections.
Implies a high frequency either audible (nuisance) or ltrasound (short
range).
>>sound travels typically at 5000 ft/s in water. If you
>>constrain a
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>>rate of 24
>>bits per ms or 24,000 bits per second.
Through water in a pipe... I don't tink so. The reflections you
reference would be very bad.
>>2. Transmission losses. In my irrigation system at home,
>>it's about
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>>propagate well
>>down the pipe?
Said reflections.
Looks difficult to me.
Bury the wires. Another possibility is radio control. Commercial radio
transmission frequencies could be used. Ranch transmitter and control
station. Solar powered d\receivers to operate valve circuitry. Water
pressure powered hydruliic valve movers.
Angelo Campanella