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rdmiller@gmail.com - 06 May 2008 00:25 GMT
Does anyone have a source for information on the picket fence effect
in acoustics, particularly as it relates to finned walls in an
auditorium?  Each fin is 2" thick by 7" deep spaced at 9" on center.
These fins are at both sidewalls and continue over the ceiling.

Thanks,
Rob Miller
Don Pearce - 06 May 2008 06:53 GMT
>Does anyone have a source for information on the picket fence effect
>in acoustics, particularly as it relates to finned walls in an
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>Thanks,
>Rob Miller

It is just a matter of geometry. Work out how far each is from where
you are listening, then from that work out how much further each is
than the one before. The wavelength that corresponds to that distance
will be enhanced. As the echo moves down the fence away from you the
note will drop as each picket becomes correspondingly further than the
one before.

The spacing between centres is the only dimension you need.

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Don Pearce - 06 May 2008 07:02 GMT
>>Does anyone have a source for information on the picket fence effect
>>in acoustics, particularly as it relates to finned walls in an
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>than the one before. The wavelength that corresponds to that distance
>will be enhanced.

Oops!  I meant half wavelength, sorry.

>As the echo moves down the fence away from you the
>note will drop as each picket becomes correspondingly further than the
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>
>d

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N_Cook - 06 May 2008 08:34 GMT
> Does anyone have a source for information on the picket fence effect
> in acoustics, particularly as it relates to finned walls in an
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> Thanks,
> Rob Miller

I used to notice this effect walking along a street that had vertically
mounted corrugated iron roofing sheets mounted as fences on both sides.

I was wondering about this effect associated with my "room resonance"
request below. Two venues I come across it have walls where the plaster has
been removed so there is a repeat pattern of about 9 inches per brick in
staggered layers though. Could this repeat , running around all 4 walls,  be
the cause of the 2KHz or so resonant ringing
N_Cook - 06 May 2008 08:53 GMT
> > Does anyone have a source for information on the picket fence effect
> > in acoustics, particularly as it relates to finned walls in an
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> staggered layers though. Could this repeat , running around all 4 walls,  be
> the cause of the 2KHz or so resonant ringing

Using your half wavelength , assuming a square room for convenience , a
repeat pattern of 9.5 inches (with mortar gaps) and optimum reinforcement
angle relative to each wall of 45 degrees and so from sin (45)* 2* 9.5 I
make that about 893 Hz, getting nearer the mark
N_Cook - 06 May 2008 08:57 GMT
Could the brick-bond staggering mean a doubling of that frequency to 1786 Hz
?
N_Cook - 06 May 2008 13:46 GMT
> Does anyone have a source for information on the picket fence effect
> in acoustics, particularly as it relates to finned walls in an
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> Thanks,
> Rob Miller

The Mayans probably had a word for the effect
http://www.ocasa.org/MayanPyramid.htm
 
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