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SLAT TYPE HELMHOLTZ RESONATOR FORMULA

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Eric Desart - 17 Feb 2004 13:41 GMT
Hi All,
I made a summary which I posted in several groups with credit to all
contributors.
This is more important than it seems at a first glance.
Until now I couldn't find even 1 single correct calculator on the net (HTML,
Java, Excel)

Scott thank you for reporting this, I think you helped more people than you
can imagine.

Recently a very attentive person noticed an error related to published Slat
type Helmholtz resonator formulas and reported this.

From: Scott Smith
Newsgroups: alt.sci.physics.acoustics
Date: 2004-02-02 15:45:49 PST

The noticed error was further investigated by the author versus diverse
editions of the referred books.

WRONG often published and in calculators used formula
fo = 2160*sqrt(r/((d*1.2*D)+(r+w)))

CORRECT formula
fo = 2160*sqrt(r/((d*1.2*D)*(r+w)))

r = slot width
d = slat thickness
1.2 = mouth correction
D = cavity depth,
w = slat width
2160 = c/(2*PI) but rounded
c = speed of sound in inch/sec.

DETAILS

There was some confusion about the origin of this error:
Both:
Master Handbook of Acoustics - F. Alton Everest
Handbook for Sound Engineers - Glen M. Ballou
were referred as possible sources.

I took liberty to check different editions of the books themselves
Master Handbook of Acoustics editions 2, 3 and 4
Handbook for Sound Engineers editions 2 and 3

The formula with the included error is:
2160*sqrt(r/((d*D)+(r+w)))

This error does NOT originate from "Master Handbook of Acoustics" but from
"Handbook for Sound Engineers"

2160*sqrt(r/((d*D)*(r+w))) [+ sign to be substituted by *]
Both Handbook for Sound Engineers: editions 2 and 3 still show the faulty
version.

Scott Smith reported his RIGHTFUL CONCERN about the spreadsheets he found on
the net and reported at least 3 of them based on the wrong formula.

I took the liberty to check any further and came to the conclusion that for
"Slat type Helmholtz resonators" I could not come up with even 1 single
correct calculator, neither HTML, nor Java or Excel calculators.
So this problem seems even worse then reported by Scott Smith.
The faulty "Slat type Helmholtz resonator" calculators on the net are NOT
the exception but the rule!!!.

Even the calculators on highly respected sites as SAE:
http://www.saecollege.de/reference_material/images/Helmholtz.xls
http://www.saecollege.de/reference_material/pages/Low%20Mid%20Frequencies.htm
but also others as e.g.:
http://homepages.tig.com.au/~audio/electric/helmholz.htm
http://www.mhsoft.nl/Helmholtzabsorber.asp
http://www.mindspring.com/~c_campbell_2000/eyedrum/helmholtz.xls
are wrong.

This error does not appear in the "Master Handbook of Acoustics - F. Alton
Everest"
So why are that many calculators wrong, knowing That F. Alton Everest is
also a standard work in the studio world?

Lets analyse both approaches:

1) Handbook for Sound Engineers - Glen M. Ballou - editions 2 and 3

fo = 2160*sqrt(r/((d*D)+(r+w))) (note this is still the Wrong formula)

d = the effective depth of the slot in inches, which is approximately (1.2)
x (thickness of the slot in inches)
Important to note is that the factor 1.2 is an approximation.
The correct mathematical modelling of the mouth correction for Slat type
Helmholtz resonators is a rather complex business.

2) Master Handbook of Acoustics - F. Alton Everest - editions 2, 3 and 4

fo = 216*sqrt(p/(d*D))

fo = resonance freq.. in Hz
p = perforation percentage (noted as values 1 to 100%)
D= airspace depth in inches
d = thickness of slat

p = 100 * r/(w+r)
r = slot width
w = slat width

One notices that F. Alton Everest ignores this (in reality complex) mouth
correction.
It is not that uncommon that lots of books, even respected works only
present stylized versions of formulas.
Any work is written in function of a specific target group.

As such works as the "The Master Handbook of Acoustics" will go less deep in
mathematics as more specialized works.

While the aforementioned noted factor 1.2 for the mouth correction in the
"Handbook for Sound Engineers" is only an approximation, it's still better
to use this approximation than ignoring the mouth correction.

What is this mouth correction?
A Helmholtz resonator is a mass-spring system, which is comparable with a
panel or membrane resonator.
The system is based on a mass which vibrates in resonance on a spring.
The ratio of the mass versus the dynamic stiffness of this spring defines
the resonance frequency.
The air layer in the cavity acts as a spring with a certain dynamic
stiffness mainly defined by its volume.
The larger the Volume, the weaker the spring becomes (lowering resonance
frequency) and vice versa.

For a panel resonator it's easy to imagine what the mass is: the panel.
The heavier this mass becomes the lower the resonance frequency and vice
versa.
As such a panel resonator is mainly defined by the combination of both
properties.
This isn't complete, since angle of incidence, weakness of spring etc. will
influence the resonance frequency and the Q-factor.

For a Helmholtz resonator this mass is represented by the mass of the air
enclosed by the neck or slot of the resonator.
However this apparent mass extends outside the exact geometrical boundaries
of this neck or slot.
This is covered by the mouth correction, which is in fact a correction
factor increasing those geometrical boundaries.
In reality this phenomenon is much more complicated than the simple factor,
used by the traditional formulas.
As such the distance between those necks or slots (interaction) and others
will influence this correction.
For practical use however the standard formulas are a good approach.

I can only assume that it is the lack of this mouth correction in Everest's
formulas why Ballou's formula (correctly printed in Michael Rettinger's book
on Studio Acoustics) is used.

In fact one can call it incredible that so many calculators on the net are
wrong, even from well respected organizations as SAE, which is and presents
itself as:
"The largest Institute for Multimedia, Audio Education and Digital Film
Education worldwide"

NONE of the calculators I found mention the source of the used calculation
method.

And here Some EXTREMELY important comments, in relation to the error
reporting by Scott Smith, are due

From: Tony
Newsgroups: alt.sci.physics.acoustics
Date: 2004-02-04 10:46:33 PST

...I found your post a useful reminder that published equations can have
errors.
For this reason and others, it is dangerous to pick up and use equations
that you are not familiar with and do not understand.
Your post also made me realize that is not nearly so easy to see an error in
an equation in spreadsheet format as it is in conventional notation, and I
think this is also worth remembering ...

From: Noral Stewart
Newsgroups: alt.sci.physics.acoustics
Date: 2004-02-04 17:56:50 PST
<SNIP>
.........that many of us in this newsgroup know that errors exist in even
the most respected works and we watch out for them.
However, those in some other newsgroups might be more inclined to take
anything in print as gospel and spread it.
I can point out errors in almost every book I have.  For some, I even have
lists for various editions.
Errors are there for a variety of reasons.
<SNIP>
Unfortunately, we are plagued by many people who trust equations and and
data they find without verifying them or without asking the conditions that
make the data valid.
These same people buy computer programs with limitations and possibly errors
they do not understand, and suddenly think they are an expert.

Note from the author:
It is indeed incredible, and this is certainly valid for the studio world,
how many data is copied from site to site, without any respect for the
author or source of the information or used calculation methods.
Is this done just to look clever? To attract people to there site? To
present themselves as experts?

The above example is a SCHOOL EXAMPLE of this type of behavior.
It most likely started with nothing more than a simple typesetting remaining
unnoticed.
As it seems now, the resulting WRONG calculation formula used by so many
sites became the standard rather than the exception.
Why then did educated acousticians didn't noticed this before?
Mostly professional acousticians do NOT rely on net calculators, but on
there study and books.
And here the comments by Noral Stewart are important:
For a trained acoustician a formula is a mathematical representation of a
physical process.
As such it is a language in the same manner the written word is the tool for
a writer to express his thoughts.

Anyhow the author wishes to express his respect to Scott Smitt for:
a) Reporting this.
b) Being critical enough to notice this error.

Further the author expresses his respect:
1) Tony Woolf (Europe: UK acoustician - http://www.tonywoolf.co.uk )
2) Noral Stewart (US: NC acoustician -
http://www.stewartacousticalconsultants.com )
For their valuable comments

3) J.F. Oros (member http://forum.studiotips.com )
4) Jack Hildwine (member http://forum.studiotips.com )
For checking the exact content of the by the author lacking editions of
Everest's and Ballou's books.

Eric Desart
http://www.acoustics-noise.com
The Ghost - 18 Feb 2004 02:13 GMT
> Hi All,
> I made a summary which I posted in several groups with credit to all
> contributors.
> This is more important than it seems at a first glance.

1) You obviously have way too much free time on your hands.
2) Your judgement regarding what is/not important is seriously impaired.
3) Those who mindlessly use calculators on the internet get what they
deserve, and there is nothing that either you or anyone else will ever be
able to do to change that.  
 
Jouko Holopainen - 18 Feb 2004 10:07 GMT
>> Hi All,
>> I made a summary which I posted in several groups with credit to all
>> contributors.
>> This is more important than it seems at a first glance.

Thanks. I was very happy to get this formula.

> 1) You obviously have way too much free time on your hands.

Thank God you do not.

> 2) Your judgement regarding what is/not important is seriously impaired.

Thank God your judgement is flawless.

> 3) Those who mindlessly use calculators on the internet get what they
> deserve, and there is nothing that either you or anyone else will ever be
> able to do to change that.  

Those who mindlessly write posts like yours on the internet hopefully
get what they deserve, although I doubt it. Yes, I know, there is
nothing I or anyone else will ever be able to do to change that.

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The Ghost - 19 Feb 2004 04:34 GMT
Take some time off, Jouko, and go grow a brain, and come back when you are
prepared to play hardball.  In the interim, you should keep your mouth shut
and let people think that you are a fool rather than open your mouth and
remove all doubt.

>>> Hi All,
>>> I made a summary which I posted in several groups with credit to all
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> get what they deserve, although I doubt it. Yes, I know, there is
> nothing I or anyone else will ever be able to do to change that.
Brian Marston - 18 Feb 2004 13:18 GMT
>>Hi All,
>>I made a summary which I posted in several groups with credit to all contributors.
>>This is more important than it seems at a first glance.

> 1) You obviously have way too much free time on your hands.
> 2) Your judgement regarding what is/not important is seriously impaired.
> 3) Those who mindlessly use calculators on the internet get what they
> deserve, and there is nothing that either you or anyone else will ever be
> able to do to change that.  

You obviously have little regard for truth & intellectual integrity. In this group each problem is
addressed as it occurs, and answers are usually well researched. What to you is a flippant question
may be of great concern to others. By responding honestly and in full we at least contribute to
removing long standing errors.

Eric is right. This question is more important than it seems at first glance. The simple slat type
helmholz resonator (when properly tuned) is a simple low cost solution to a whole suite of acoustic
problems. The financial ramifications to mis-tuning such a device can be substantial.

If there is one thing I detest on the net it is individuals who snipe at the world from behind
ridiculous pseudonyms to defend mediocrity & ignorance.
The Ghost - 19 Feb 2004 02:11 GMT
> You obviously have little regard for truth & intellectual integrity.

And equally obviously, only a moron such as yourself would make such a
stupid and preposterous accusation.  

> In this group each problem is addressed as it occurs,

Yes,in theory; but the fact of the matter is that no one conisdered the
original post important enough to even bother responding.

> and answers are usually well researched.

Excuse me, but we are clearly dealing with a typo that has been propagated
on the internet by a bunch of mindless morons.  There isn't a lot of
research that is need to figure that out. The issue isn't what is the
correct formula....that is obvious.  The issue is feasibility/practicality
of going on a crusade to correct the widespread error.

> What to you is a flippant question may be of
> great concern to others. By responding honestly and in full we at
> least contribute to removing long standing errors.

By responding honestly and in full, you contribute nothing to solve the
problem.  If you believe otherwise, you are delusional.  



> Eric is right. This question is more important than it seems at first
> glance.

While Eric is well-intentioned, he is wrong.  This question has no
importance whatsoever.  We are dealing with nothing more than a simple typo
that is obvious to anyone who has half a brain and who has a single book on
acoustics on his bookshelf.  The real problem is with the lazy idiots
who've never been in a library, who don't own any books and who trust
whatever they happen to come across on the internet.
 

> The simple slat type helmholz resonator (when properly tuned)
> is a simple low cost solution to a whole suite of acoustic problems.
> The financial ramifications to mis-tuning such a device can be
> substantial.

I agree.  The problem is that lazy/ignorant/incompetent fools who
mindlessly use calculators on the internet should not be employed to design
to design slat Helmholtz resonators.


> If there is one thing I detest on the net it is individuals who snipe
> at the world from behind ridiculous pseudonyms to defend mediocrity &
> ignorance.

What I detest on the net are morons like you who are unable to distinguish
mediocrity and ignorance from exceptional competence.
Kari Pesonen - 18 Feb 2004 15:30 GMT
Those simple equations of f0 usally expect normal incidence
of plane waves.

If you are interested in estimating of absorption of constructions
using perforated plates (apertures and air space behind),
useful infomation is available, for example, from

Monkowsky V S, Acoustics of studios and auditoria, Focal Press,
1971, 395 p. Chapter 5.8 Absorption of sound of porous vibratory
systems, 167 - 181.

Kari Pesonen
The Ghost - 19 Feb 2004 01:23 GMT
> Those simple equations of f0 usally expect normal incidence
> of plane waves.

Those simple equations also assume that the dimesions of the resonator
construction are small relative to a quarter wavelength at the resonant
frequency.  Typically a factor of one-tenth of wavelength is assumed to be
acceptable.  And I would venture to guess (guarantee??) that none of the
calculators check at the end of the calculation to determine whether or not
this assumption is violated by the dimensions that are provided.
 
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