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Finding reverbaration time in recordings.

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Antoni Grzymala - 14 Jun 2005 11:28 GMT
Dear Colleagues,

I am a sound engineering student at the Frederic Chopin Conservatory in
Warsaw, Poland.

I am preparing to write an MA thesis on reverbaration time in acoustic
recordings (mainly of classical music and jazz) to find out whether there
is a tendency to enhance natural recording studio reverberation with an
artificial one in the process of mastering (or perhaps during the
recording itself).

As reverberation characteristics for many recording studios and halls are
well known, it should be relativly easy to find out whether some
artificial reverb has been added to a recording.

The difficult bit is a finding a reliable method for judging the
reverbaration time in recorded material. I thought perhaps some of you
would be kind enough to point me some direction where I could begin my
research.

Currently I have a pretty conventional idea of measuring the steepness of
sound decay in abruptly stopped passages and general pauses. If there's a
more efficient way, perhaps allowing to take some reliable measurement in
continuous musical passages, please let me know.

Best regards,

Antoni Grzymała
Jens Rodrigo - 14 Jun 2005 14:27 GMT
> As reverberation characteristics for many recording studios
> and halls are well known, it should be relativly easy to find
> out whether some artificial reverb has been added to a recording.

Hello Antoni,

Your task will not be easy, because there will be no fixed setting
of the "Lexicon 480" reverberation in the recording production.
The slow movement will have more artificial reverb than the others.
When it comes to a sudden stop, I never leave the echo return
setting where it was. I surely will reduce the level. The recording
is an editing puzzle from three days recording with audience and
the retakes in the empty hall. I do what I can to hide the different
acoustics of these situations. When the orchestra plays very loudly
I add extra level from the reverb to make the sound more exiting.
Especially in surround sound recordings I am always changing
the room sound with the dynamic. If I would not do that, the
listener will ask, why are no rear speakers engaged half of the
time?

If you find a recording of a music documentation done by a
radiostation where they red the newspaper during recording
you will have good luck, but only then.

Jens
Ethan Winer - 14 Jun 2005 14:49 GMT
Antoni,

> to find out whether there is a tendency to enhance natural recording
studio reverberation with an artificial one in the process of mastering (or
perhaps during the recording itself). <

Jens has the right idea. It will be much easier to find some classical
recording engineers and simply ask them what they do, and also ask what they
think most of their colleagues do. That is more direct than trying to
determine the amount of reverb present in recordings!

--Ethan
 
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