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Why cats walk and jump so quietly ?

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Bobby Nelson - 23 Jul 2005 05:45 GMT
Hi ... When I played with my cat today, suddenly I rasied up a question
in my mind.  Why cats walk and jump so quietly ? Does this relate to the
pads on foot, the body flexibility .... etc ? When a 15lbs cat jumps up
onto a table, sound should be generated, where does this sound go ?

It seems stupid to ask these questions here, but I hope someone can give
me hints on that.

Nelson
Don Pearce - 23 Jul 2005 07:21 GMT
>Hi ... When I played with my cat today, suddenly I rasied up a question
>in my mind.  Why cats walk and jump so quietly ? Does this relate to the
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>
>Nelson

I don't think so. I can walk and jump quietly on a hard floor wearing
ski boots. It is all a question of coordination of the muscles. I
suspect that cats are very good at this.

d

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WJ - 23 Jul 2005 16:44 GMT
> Hi ... When I played with my cat today, suddenly I rasied up a question
> in my mind.  Why cats walk and jump so quietly ? Does this relate to the
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>
> Nelson

Ever heard the expression "light on his feet"?  Cats exemplify this.  You
can appreciate the difference more by sitting in some public place and
watching people walk by.  Some come down heavy on their feet, basically
falling forward and catching themselves abruptly with a thud.  Others
cooperate with the floor, catching themselves lightly with their muscles
flexed to cushion the step.  With training and practice, a person can learn
to walk nearly silently.  A lot of it is spatial awareness; knowing exactly
where the ground is so it doesn't catch your foot by surprise.  Martial arts
disciplines often teach this skill, but cats have it naturally.  Of course,
the things you mentioned are important too.  It helps that their feet are
nicely padded, they are extremely flexible, and that their muscles are very
dense and strong for their weight.

It's interesting to compare video of a cat and a tiger walking.  15 pounds
or 300, they use the same techniques, with the same result.

Cheers,
Walt
Angelo Campanella - 23 Jul 2005 18:38 GMT
> Hi ... When I played with my cat today, suddenly I rasied up a question
> in my mind.  Why cats walk and jump so quietly ? Does this relate to the
> pads on foot, the body flexibility .... etc ? When a 15lbs cat jumps up
> onto a table, sound should be generated, where does this sound go ?

Darwin at work.

Noisy cats have long ago starved to death and left the gene pool.

Millennia of evolution has done its work.

Angelo Campanella
Bobby Nelson - 23 Jul 2005 19:16 GMT
Yes, I understand.  But where does the sound go ? Does the cats'jump not
excite the floor or table surfaces and make sound ?

Angelo Campanella 提到:

>> Hi ... When I played with my cat today, suddenly I rasied up a question
>> in my mind.  Why cats walk and jump so quietly ? Does this relate to the
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> Angelo Campanella
Don Pearce - 23 Jul 2005 19:26 GMT
>Yes, I understand.  But where does the sound go ? Does the cats'jump not
>excite the floor or table surfaces and make sound ?

The sound doesn't happen because the impulse is spread out over a long
enough period that it contains no audible harmonics. The same happens
during landing as the ligaments in the leg soak up the energy.

d

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Angelo Campanella - 24 Jul 2005 05:03 GMT
>>Yes, I understand.  But where does the sound go ? Does the cats'jump not
>>excite the floor or table surfaces and make sound ?

    Dynamics. You seem to have confined your query to the falling-stopping
phenomenon, so I will dwell on that.

    One can bring a moving body to rest in any number of ways; stopping it
suddenly (hit a brick wall), or by excessive damping (falling into a
swimming pool), or optimally by absorbing the momentum of the falling
body over a period long compared to a cycle of the the lowest frequency
sound that can be heard. Thus, if the cat can cause his deceleration to
occur over a period longer than 1/10th of a second, the sounds created
by his body and the (pliable) surfaces upon which he comes to rest will
all be well below 10 Hz. Infra sound will be emitted, but the radiation
efficiency of such surfaces is very small. If you are in a car with the
windows closed, and a cat lands on the roof, then you might hear such a
thump.

    It important that the momentum absorption be done at a uniform rate
(constant deceleration) without jerks since each jerk can cause
deceleration forces of higher frequencies that 10 Hz. Padded feet and
excellent muscle tone in the cats arms, legs and torso can help. Cats
don't get out of shape as far as I can tell.

    Does that help?

        Angelo Campanella
Peter Weis - 24 Jul 2005 08:15 GMT
> Yes, I understand.  But where does the sound go ? Does the cats'jump not
> excite the floor or table surfaces and make sound ?

They do excite the floor, and cats make noises when they jump. I can
hear them.

The difference between cats and e.g. dogs is that cats don't bark, they
retract their claws and they are smaller than most dogs.

best regards
Peter
Fleetie - 24 Jul 2005 14:24 GMT
> Yes, I understand.  But where does the sound go ? Does the cats'jump not excite the floor or table surfaces and make sound ?

I remember when I was a young kid, maybe 7 or 8, "impressing" my Mum. My sister
and I were jumping off her bed onto the floor, and I could land nearly silently by
prolonging the landing, by kind of absorbing the impact of the fall over a long time,
by suitably deforming my muscles on impact. My younger sister just went "clomp!"
every time!

Martin
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WJ - 24 Jul 2005 15:30 GMT
>> Yes, I understand.  But where does the sound go ? Does the cats'jump not
>> excite the floor or table surfaces and make sound ?
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> Martin

So...(someone please correct me if I'm thinking wrongly) a 15lb object
landing on a table releases a certain amount of energy, which may or may not
be converted into sound waves.  The cat minimizes the amount of sound
produced by landing in a manner that dissipates the energy in other ways.
It absorbs some of the energy into its body (which would convert the energy
to heat), and another portion is converted to sub-audible pressure waves in
the table surface.  There is a certain amount of actual sound created, but
not nearly as much as if it had been a rock instead of a cat.  Also, a
jumping cat often lands in a crouch, using its body to absorb some of the
audible energy that is generated.

Amazing critters.  I wish the two strays that like to have territorial
yeowling matches outside my bedroom at night were more concerned with
remaining unheard.

Cheers,
Walt
Ron Hubbard - 18 Aug 2005 07:45 GMT
> >> Yes, I understand.  But where does the sound go ? Does the cats'jump not
> >> excite the floor or table surfaces and make sound ?
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> yeowling matches outside my bedroom at night were more concerned with
> remaining unheard.

And keep in mind, Walt,  that there's a qualitative difference between 15 lbs of
books and 15 lbs of muscle, bones, and fur. Even if you would do something so
hideously inhumane as to splat the cat against the wall, the sound will still be
low frequency, nearly inaudible sound, except for the hissing of one pissed off
cat.  <grin>

Ron
The Ghost - 19 Aug 2005 01:35 GMT
snip....snip

> And keep in mind, Walt,  that there's a qualitative difference between
> 15 lbs of books and 15 lbs of muscle, bones, and fur. Even if you
> would do something so hideously inhumane as to splat the cat against
> the wall, the sound will still be low frequency, nearly inaudible
> sound, except for the hissing of one pissed off cat.  <grin>

In light of your experience with high-intensity ultrasound, do you know if
that "pissed off", hissing cat could produce 143dB SPL at 16KHz or
thereabouts?  Just wondering. :>)
Ethan Winer - 25 Jul 2005 15:56 GMT
Angelo,

> Noisy cats have long ago starved to death and left the gene pool. <

My cat Bear is too fat to land softly, yet I assure you he's in no danger of
starving! :->)

Seriously, another reason this ability is useful for cats is it lets them
jump from high places without breaking a leg.

--Ethan
boB Gudgel - 31 Jul 2005 06:01 GMT
>Hi ... When I played with my cat today, suddenly I rasied up a question
>in my mind.  Why cats walk and jump so quietly ? Does this relate to the
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
>Nelson

Cats walk quietly because they do not wear shoes.    Puss'N Boots was
a noisey cat I bet.

Put shoes on a cat, especially wooden shoes, and I bet it won't be
quite anymore.

boB
Ken Plotkin - 31 Jul 2005 06:32 GMT
>Cats walk quietly because they do not wear shoes.    Puss'N Boots was
>a noisey cat I bet.
>
>Put shoes on a cat, especially wooden shoes, and I bet it won't be
>quite anymore.

Put your own wooden shoe (or boot) on a cat - firmly, while you're
wearing it - and the cat will be quite noisy.

Ken Plotkin
 
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