In recent years, the installation of vibration sensitive equipment in
multi-story buildings has become commonplace. We all know that placing
such equipment on the ground floor, on terra firma, is the best choice,
But that is not the way that humans act and think. As a result many
vibration sensitive devices (e.g. MRI's) and instruments (e.g. confocal
microscopes) are routinely installed and operated on the upper floors of
buildings. The trend is anything is increasing; more are wanted and
built despite our warnings that it is not the best technical practice.
The issue is that there is no such thing as a rigid building. All
beams, panels and floor sections have bending modes and resonances.
Typical house wood floor joists have their first resonant mode at around
6 Hz. A reinforced concrete floor slab may have a similar resonance
anywhere from 4 Hz ("long-span" between columns) to 20 Hz (old poured
concrete and brick and tile structures circa 1900). As exciters, during
working hours people walk around (2 Hz footstep rate) and slam doors
(wide band delta function).
So what do we advise our clients (architects, structural engineers,
owners) to do to "get their satisfaction" after building occupation?
Discipline in door slams and elevator behavior can be controlled, but
the last item, footsteps seems nigh impossible to eliminate. Coupled
with the fact that practical vibration isolation tables, for
microscopes, etc., work at high frequencies and down to about 5 Hz,
loose their effectiveness and can actually amplify 2 Hz vibrations.
Few of the users of such equipment will allow to be placed on the
ground floor. There is only a very limited space there in most
buildings. To build a first, second and third floor deck of stiffness
that will not allow measurable floor deflections below about 20 Hz is a
structural challenge to say the least.
I estimated in one case that an appropriate floor stiffness would be
that it shall not have more than 1/64th of an inch deflection at its
center, under design load. All this to provide a first panel resonance
between columns at or above 20 Hz. I believe that architects and
structural engineers (and owners that must pay the bill) will shudder at
the thought of designing, building and paying for such a building.
I wonder what the experience of this astute audience has been in this
arena, and I welcome any constructive comments as to what to advise.
Angelo Campanella
GregS - 19 Sep 2005 17:39 GMT
> In recent years, the installation of vibration sensitive equipment in
>multi-story buildings has become commonplace. We all know that placing
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> Angelo Campanella
I work in buildings for medical research. I carry a device for measuring
electrostatic or magnetic interference. I always wanted to add a microphone
to it to listen to building vibration, as well as a photodiode to detect light noise.
I would also like a sound display showing the modes of vibration or
how they look exactly in 3D.
The buildings vibrate at 60 Hz, and other freqs. I'm listening to the ground floor
of a 12 story old sturdy building. There isn't much LF but still has upper frequiencies present.
Newer buildings have less weight and things are really bad. They are also more
electrically noisey. At least we influenced having our new buildings using
aluminized drywall to help reduce RF noise.
Most Lab tables probably have good damping at a couple Hz, but I might look into that.
Some people put slabs on inner tubes, not too great, allthough with the incorporation
of added air lines, damps out the shakes. Its an enormous job to keep things
in order. Another thing, these places are not stable, everybody and labs get
moved about every so often. Pushing for ground floor space is not much of an option
in these types of institutions.
greg
GregS - 19 Sep 2005 17:52 GMT
>I work in buildings for medical research. I carry a device for measuring
>electrostatic or magnetic interference. I always wanted to add a microphone
>to it to listen to building vibration, as well as a photodiode to detect light
I guess I might expand my all purpose detector, as having electostatic, magnetic,
light, vibration, and low frequency audio, or ventillation pressure changes. I'll
leave radiation out, but would be nice!
greg
Angelo Campanella - 19 Sep 2005 21:56 GMT
>>I work in buildings for medical research. I carry a device for measuring
>>electrostatic or magnetic interference. I always wanted to add a microphone
>>to it to listen to building vibration, as well as a photodiode to detect light
> I guess I might expand my all purpose detector, as having electostatic, magnetic,
> light, vibration, and low frequency audio, or ventillation pressure changes. I'll
> leave radiation out, but would be nice!
You response is illuminating. I find a similar posture in talking to
the building owner. Having E and H detectors is nice for evaluating
spaces where open electrodes are used to ply living matter.
The effects of sound is a more perplexing, as it is often confused with
"vibration". The normal concern is about floor vibration since the
effects the apparatus supported by said floor.
There is indeed an interaction with airborne low frequency sound, since
flat surfaces of experimental apparatus can be pushed about by such
sound waves. I often must distinguish the two in contemplating
structural solutions to these problems.
The inner tubes are an ersatz version of "air supports", which
incorporate heavy rubber boots fitted with pressure regulators to
stabilize and maintain a level apparatus posture.
The latest twist is active vibration isolators which promise to
overcome the nominal 2Hz (or wherever it is placed) resonance
amplification, and could extend to much lower frequencies. I suspect
that these capabilities are in the R&D phase right now.
Angelo Campanella
Helmut Wabnig - 23 Sep 2005 15:32 GMT
>The buildings vibrate at 60 Hz, and other freqs. I'm listening to the ground floor
>of a 12 story old sturdy building.
When you look (listen) closer you will notice that buildings
have vibration peaks at about 58 Hz and the half frequency 39 Hz in
USA, 48 and 24 Hz in Europe, respectively.
That is caused by large asynchronous machines,
mostly by air conditioning. They run slighty slower than
line frequency would drive synchronous motors.
Need good vibration measuring equipment to resolve those effects.
w.
Herb Singleton - 20 Sep 2005 03:03 GMT
In article
<aiBXe.276415$5N3.134691@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
> In recent years, the installation of vibration sensitive equipment in
> multi-story buildings has become commonplace.
The biggest problem I've had with vibration-sensitive equipment in
buildings is that no one (manufacturers, sales-reps or customers) could
tell me what the "acceptable" vibration limits were for a specific piece
of equipment. I usually made due with VC curves or criteria based on
similar equipment, but then I've had to over-specify the mitigation to
make sure I didn't miss anything.
There have been a few cases where I've been supplied with vibration
criteria from the manufacturer-supplied data (usually MRI and
MEMS-manufacturing machines). Of course, I've also found that in
existing installations of these same equipment, ambient vibration levels
usually exceed the manufacturer's spec with no adverse effects(!).
<Barbie voice>
"Vibration is hard!"
</Barbie voice>
Herb
Helmut Wabnig - 23 Sep 2005 15:26 GMT
Of course, I've also found that in
>existing installations of these same equipment, ambient vibration levels
>usually exceed the manufacturer's spec with no adverse effects(!).
I had the same experience more than once. The manufacturers
put enough of reserve into their specs, they know their customers -)
w.