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Bert - 20 Mar 2006 00:13 GMT
Greetings,

Soliciting opinions regarding the promise (and hype) around in-silico
modeling of COMPLETE cellular activity.  I sincerely believe that a
revolution in healthcare can occur if signficant government resources
are used to create simulations of all organelles and cellular
components of human cells.  Is this a realistic "moon-shot" or just an
idealistic rant?  Maybe a set of projects each with "Human Genome
Project" type funding will be needed to create this over a 9-12 year
period.

Is this worth it or should we just continue on incremental progress in
wet-lab and data mining type of projects?  I've blogged
[http://nanothought.blogspot.com/2006/03/biological-simulations-next-great-era_16.html]
a congratulations to the University of Illinois computational biology
about their Viral simulation and would like to solicit opinions from
real micro-biologists that work day-to-day on the complexities of
cellular functions.

Any thoughts?

Bert
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Xira - 20 Mar 2006 09:15 GMT
I think that yes, it is worth doing, but that we are 10-30 years away
from the processing power needed to do it.

A good modeling of a single receptor-ligand interaction can take weeks
on a decent supercomputer, the resources nessicary to model an entire
cell are just too astranomical at the current moment.
Bert - 20 Mar 2006 16:16 GMT
Maybe different level of abstractions (and granularity) should be
modeled (and layered) to help reduce the computational needs ... for
instance instead of going down to the level of exact positional and
physical attributes of each protein (which demands huge cpu/memory
resources)... we can abstract up one level and just consider eletrical
charge, behavior and other aspects of biochemistry that can still
provide significant insight and research avenues .... and once all the
models of the individual cellular components start coming together in
an integrated model - unforseen relationships and behavior can start
emerging.

Bert
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Xira - 21 Mar 2006 13:58 GMT
This is done already to no success already:)

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6TCX-49M6R24-2&_coverD
ate=11%2F30%2F2003&_alid=380257199&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_qd=1&_cdi=5182&_s
ort=d&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=5ab0dff057
4575e8824307cbaab3752c


Exactly what you are looking for, but sorry it's not a freetext, you
may have to go to your library.
katpyxa@gmail.com - 22 Mar 2006 13:53 GMT
More details about this project I found at http://www.nrcam.uchc.edu/
And it seems that it is sponsored exactly by NIH.

Also quick search by Google gives:
http://ecell.sourceforge.net/
palestine_pimp90@hotmail.com - 03 Apr 2006 18:58 GMT
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