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copper and trans-fat (hydrogenated fats) as cause of Alzheimers ?!?!?

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a_plutonium - 12 Jan 2007 02:56 GMT
A stunning piece of information to me tonight. On thursday night we
have a program on South Dakota PBS of "On Call" where a medical doctor
and some guests speak up about a disease and answer phone-ins. These
are valuable TV programs for they are like a 1 hour lecture of
everything you need to know about a disease. I wonder if other states
have launched their own such medical program. Which could serve their
state as a weekly State news to its citizens about medicine.

Tonight's program was on rheumatism. And at the end it was discussed
about gout which in the old days was due to lead poisoning from
drinking too much wine kept in lead lined containers. And afterwards
was a news report that Researchers may have found a link with
Alzheimers as too much copper in the body coupled with too much
trans-fat. Question: was trans-fat or hydrogenated oils in our foods we
eat introduced in the late 1800s and early 1900s when the first
Alzheimers patients were recognized? In other words, is this Alzheimers
disease due largely to the fact of modern day hydrogenated oils? Could
it be that Alzheimers did not exist until we manufactured trans fat?
What a stunning piece of information.

My own work on Alzheimers blames mercury. But perhaps copper in
combination with mercury and Hydrogenated Fats in the foods we eat is
the culprit of Alzheimers?

Now, maybe trans-fat coupled with mercury could be the cause of Autism?
And I listed Alzheimers, Parkinsons, Prion, Autism and Schizophrenia as
all due to some metal toxin, mainly that of mercury, but it could be
that Trans-fats has a major role in contracting the disease.

Archimedes Plutonium
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whole entire Universe is just one big atom
where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies
a_plutonium - 15 Jan 2007 20:13 GMT
I believe the date of the first Alzheimers cases was 1890s. Can someone
give me a date for when hydrogenated
oils and fats were introduced as foods? Was it the 1890s?

When Autism was first seen, I believe it was around the 1970s, correct
me if wrong on any of these time-lines.
So I wonder if hydrogenated oils or fats those so called trans-fats
were somehow used in baby-food or
baby-formula. Or perhaps mothers just started feeding their young child
foods that she ate and contained
trans-fats.

Now has chemistry studied well what happens when hydrogenated fats and
oils are mixed with mercury?

Does it elevate mercury into that of a neuro toxin?

Archimedes Plutonium
www.iw.net/~a_plutonium
whole entire Universe is just one big atom
where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies
bae@cs.toronto.no-uce.edu - 15 Jan 2007 22:09 GMT
>I believe the date of the first Alzheimers cases was 1890s. Can someone
>give me a date for when hydrogenated
>oils and fats were introduced as foods? Was it the 1890s?

Senile dementia has been known since antiquity.

>When Autism was first seen, I believe it was around the 1970s, correct
>me if wrong on any of these time-lines.

Autism has also been known since antiquity.  These children and adults
were regarded as stupid, strange, cursed  or insane.  Stories of
changelings, where a normally responding child is exchanged for a
strange, unresponsive one by malignant fairies or elves, probably
derive from cases of autism.

Naming something doesn't create it.  And correlation isn't causation.
a_plutonium - 17 Jan 2007 09:51 GMT
> >I believe the date of the first Alzheimers cases was 1890s. Can someone
> >give me a date for when hydrogenated
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> Naming something doesn't create it.  And correlation isn't causation.

Your fallacy is that you opine a similar disease in the past history as

being the current disease. If I said HIV AIDS, then you would say the
Ancients described a disease similar and thus HIV existed in ancient
times. You must be more careful to distinguish your own opinion from
that of factual history.

P.S. any chemist know what reaction occurs when you put forms of
mercury with hydrogenated oils and fats (trans-fats)? Does it elevate
the toxicity of mercury? And what about cesium with trans-fats?

Archimedes Plutonium
www.iw.net/~a_plutonium
whole entire Universe is just one big atom
where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies
 
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