Natural Science Forum / Biology / Biology / November 2007

Another mouth, that has never been in combat, never been in a fox
hole.

I'll tell you what you find in fox holes.

You find people who are generally, scared shitless, and too busy
trying to stay alive, to worry about gods, and those who do stop to
pray, tend to find the fox hole, to be their last resting place.

I have never seen an atheist go into a fox hole, and a xtian come out,
but I have seen a xtian go into one, and an atheist, come out.

What you won't find much of, is bravado.

One last point. There is one thing that no one feels in a fox hole,
and that is "safe".

I suggest that before you post anymore tripe like that, you put away
your Nick Fury, comics, and go talk to some Vets.

How would you know,a.shole................You were a f.cking draft
dodger

Just another unproven aphorism.

Three men who were instrumental in influencing me, and giving me the
freedom to think freely for my self, survived the crucible of combat in
WWI and WWII alienated from the beliefs of their upbringing.

My English Grandfather was born in London and nominally Church of
England. He was a Royal Flying Corps pilot and survived 4 years of a
war where the life expectancy for RFC pilots was 2 weeks. He was
convinced the futility of prayer in the trenches was proven by the
millions of grave markers across those battle fields. I remember him
going to his "Old Contemptibles" reunions until in his nineties, when
there were only two of them left. Even then his philosophy was, prayer
would not stop the inevitable, so enjoy every second without wallowing
in the theatrics of religion.

My father was born in Georgia and raised in North Carolina by a devout
Baptist aunt. He was a USAAF fighter pilot in New Guinea, the SW
Pacific, The Phillipines & Okinawa, where circumstances led him to earn
a Siver Star. He emerged from the war with a clear understanding God
had nothing to do with his survival, and prayer did nothing to save
those he knew from dying or being mutilated.

My Scots uncle a Presbyterian, was an RAF fighter pilot in North Africa
and survived his war terribly burned.

All three led their lives divorced from their cultural faith. My father
is a professed atheist. I only knew them to go to church on three
occassions to attend family weddings. None of them believed prayer was
a way to save oneself from the unbearable, only that it was a time
wasting distraction from the task at hand.

My own 1960s meditation in green proved to me the futility of trusting
in prayer to extract you from the nightmare moments of combat.

Some who survived combat still believe it was devine intervention that
saved them, not their training and support from their brothers in arms.
However, there are millions of faithful dead who got nothing from
prayer, but a cross to mark their graves.

You are a liar and a bigot.
http://www.maaf.info/

-Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
aa#2015/KoBAAWA!

Here's a name for you to go look up, asswipe:  Pat Tillman

Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes at dakotacom dot net

REPLY:  Doing what one feels like doing (moral relativism) is 'more
moral' than The 10 Commandments and teachings of Christ ??  Only if
you believe there is no better time to be alive as a pursuer of
Immorality, Sexual Hedonism, and other facets of atheism.