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Natural Science Forum / Biology / Biology / December 2007science prize for best living scientist in the world
hi, i am offering 1000 british pounds to the person chosen as the best living scientist in the world. i have set up a message board at http://scienceprize.pro-board.com/ where you can nominate, discuss and vote for those you feel deserve the prize. i have yet to arrange a venue to host the prize ceremony but it is likely to be at a british university. the candidate is expected to give about a one hour lecture explaining his or her greatest contribution to science. i hope to award this prize every year. > hi, > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > explaining his or her greatest contribution to science. i hope to > award this prize every year. Not enough money to attract the scientist who is really worthy of the prize. He would be working at a world class university and earning at least one hundred times that amount. He would also be liable for a considerable travel expense. His fee for a guest lecture (other than at another university as invited by the faculty) clearly would rival your cheap prize. Sorry. Raise that to 10000 pounds and maybe you could get him/her. FK > > hi, > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > him/her. > FK ok done, 10000 pounds it is. do you have anyone in mind who would be willing to accept this prize? > > > hi, > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > ok done, 10000 pounds it is. do you have anyone in mind who would be > willing to accept this prize? You should organize an escrow account, put that 10K in there and then we will see. > > > > hi, > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > - Show quoted text - if you don't trust me to pay, why don't you help me organise this event and i will pay you a small fee for your trouble. > > > > > hi, > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > if you don't trust me to pay, why don't you help me organize this > event and i will pay you a small fee for your trouble. I am not helping you. Just suggestion. People who are willing to waste 10K of pounds do not need any help. On 12/9/07 12:15 PM, in article f612da88-4771-4c23-a8fc-66dd2ce82873@l16g2000hsf.googlegroups.com, "ayaz" > ok done, 10000 pounds it is. do you have anyone in mind who would be > willing to accept this prize? I am willing to accept it. At least I am still alive. You have to decide if I meet the other requirements. Bill > On 12/9/07 12:15 PM, in article > f612da88-4771-4c23-a8fc-66dd2ce82...@l16g2000hsf.googlegroups.com, "ayaz" [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Bill ok, perhaps you would care to enlighten us all as to why you think you are the best living scientist in the world. On 12/9/07 1:43 PM, in article 758478df-b021-42e6-88f1-3f43c0c067f3@e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com, "ayaz" > ok, perhaps you would care to enlighten us all as to why you think you > are the best living scientist in the world. I am too busy with my scientific works to bother for a nominal amount of money. Bill > ok done, 10000 pounds it is. do you have anyone in mind who would be > willing to accept this prize?- Hide quoted text - By a strange "coincidence" my message happens to position itself next to this message at http://groups.google.com/group/sci.bio.misc/browse_thread/thread/22d8546b71e30c3 7#0cd1dc5278fb65cb . In turn according to the philosophy of totalizm nothing happens just by "coincidence" - there must be a reason for everything. In this case the reason can be that in present world of internet and millions of home-made scientists, I supposed one needs to have a great courage to present his case to the outside world. Therefore I demonstrate this courage here and nominate myself, means Dr Jan Pajak, to this prize. The scientific accomplishment which I believe deserves this nomination is the development of the scientific theory called the "Concept of Dipolar Gravity". A brief description of this theory is provided on following web peges: http://bible.webng.com/dipolar_gravity.htm http://energy.atspace.org/dipolar_gravity.htm http://evidence.ueuo.com/dipolar_gravity.htm http://evil.thefreehost.biz/dipolar_gravity.htm http://fruit.sitesled.com/dipolar_gravity.htm http://fruit.xphost.org/dipolar_gravity.htm http://god.ez-sites.ws/dipolar_gravity.htm http://karma.freewebpages.org/dipolar_gravity.htm http://memorial.awardspace.info/bible.htm http://newzealand.myfreewebs.net/dipolar_gravity.htm http://nirvana.scienceontheweb.net/dipolar_gravity.htm http://pigs.freehyperspace.com/dipolar_gravity.htm http://parasitism.about.tc/dipolar_gravity.htm http://parasitism.xphost.org/dipolar_gravity.htm http://rubik.hits.io/dipolar_gravity.htm http://users3.nofeehost.com/devils/dipolar_gravity.htm http://wszewilki.greatnow.com/dipolar_gravity.htm With the totaliztic salute, Jan Pajak (Prof. Dr Eng.) P.S. It is NOT the amount of the prize which attracted this nomination, but the honour of getting it in the present world where almost every scientist considers himself to be the greatest amongst all living ones. > ok done, 10000 pounds it is. do you have anyone in mind who would be > willing to accept this prize? Sure! The hands-down winner for the best living scientist in the world is clearly Algore! He invented the internet and also won the Nobel prize for his work in AGW! No other living scientist has that depth and breath of achievement! This contest is already over! >> ok done, 10000 pounds it is. do you have anyone in mind who would be >> willing to accept this prize? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >prize for his work in AGW! No other living scientist has that depth >and breath of achievement! This contest is already over! Where would computing be without algoreithms? > Not enough money to attract the scientist who is really worthy of the > prize. He would be working at a world class university and earning at [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > cheap prize. Sorry. Raise that to 10000 pounds and maybe you could get > him/her. We don't know what species of dingbat is offering the prize. If the winner is Uri Geller, he might show up to collect it. > > Not enough money to attract the scientist who is really worthy of the > > prize. He would be working at a world class university and earning at [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > the prize. If the winner is Uri Geller, he might > show up to collect it. i wish to remain anonymous. the award will be made, hopefully by a professor and the event organised by an intermediary. who i am is not important. what i am doing is important and should be considered a worthwile effort to generate interest and competitive enterprise in science. if you wish to assist me in organising this event please leave a message at the website mentioned above. >hi, > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >explaining his or her greatest contribution to science. i hope to >award this prize every year. Let's assume that you are actually serious, with good intentions. Why not do this "locally". That is, give a prize to someone at a local Univ. Prof -- or even post-doc or grad student. A small prize can have an impact at that scale. You can do something "fresh" -- and useful. The univ would probably work with you. If you prefer to be behind the scenes, they can undoubtedly deal with that. But a tiny prize from an unknown source competing at the Nobel scale won't cut it. bob ... > But a tiny prize from an unknown source competing at the Nobel scale > won't cut it. I would argue with this. Actually I believe that there is a need our civilization has another prize for creative scientists that is competitive for the Nobel prize. The reason is that the Nobel prize does NOT encourage creativity, lateral thinking, pulling the line even when one knows that it goes in the wrong direction, working outside of the herd, etc., means all these factors which make that someone's contribution lifts our civilization up. To be honest, if e.g. Copernicus lived now, I am sure that he would NOT get the Nobel price at all. And the amount of prize money is NOT important - what really counts, is the honor of being appreciated. Also, beginnings usually are small - but it does NOT stop them from growing later to something truly big. (E.g. practically all bus factories started as small cars factories.) When I was young and ambitious I actually thought myself of funding such an alternative prize for the Nobel one, but I never got the money needed. So I am hoping that one day someone else has the courage (and money) and comes up with such prize that will be a competition to the Nobel one. When giving money to universities is concerned, I believe that it would be a total waste of funds. All universities have their internal politics, "old-boys networks", clubs of mutual admirers, etc. In the result, money would land in hands of someone who completely undeserved to be prized. With the totaliztic salute, Jan Pajak (Prof. Dr Eng.) P.S. I believe these are English people who have the saying "it is the thought that counts". This saying applies perfectly to the matter discussed here. >... >> But a tiny prize from an unknown source competing at the Nobel scale [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >civilization has another prize for creative scientists that is >competitive for the Nobel prize. You make some useful points here. However, the key point is that the person proposing the prize has no standing. That is why I included "from an unknown source" in my post. He needs to start small, to learn how to do it. What he proposed, taken at face value, is not workable, and no one would pay any attention. Start small, learn how to do it, including judging. He can do more at some point if he wishes. >When giving money to universities is concerned, I believe that it >would be a total waste of funds. I didnt say he had to give the money to a univ. I used the univ as one example of a local institution he could work with, and learn from. If he does it with a univ, he can keep as much control as he wishes. And he can think of alternatives to a univ, if he is so inclined, but that would require local context. bob On Dec 11, 1:04 am, janpa...@gmail.com wrote: > I believe that there is a need our > civilization has another prize for creative scientists that is [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > at all. And the amount of prize money is NOT important - what really > counts, is the honor of being appreciated. Let's get practical. How this prize in question is to be awarded? The idea of the Nobel prize is that it is awarded for THE RESULTS by impartial judges. If you suggest something different, in which way it is different? Results don't count? Well, then award the prize to the guy with the highest IQ measured by some combinations of tests. It is very easy to administrate. Create the network of the local centers and everybody is free (for some minimal fees) come, measure himself and go home either with prize or without. Any other options? > Let's assume that you are actually serious, with good intentions. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > A small prize can have an impact at that scale. You can do something > "fresh" -- and useful. There's a good suggestion. Especially if he can recruit a really bright mind to switch from some other field into whatever his "pet" field of interest might happen to be, with this prize. For example, switching from particle physics to elemental transmutation. http://www.blazelabs.com/n-transmut.asp http://www.blazelabs.com/n-transmut.asp > >hi, > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > bob i think you're right bob. i don't like to appear indecisive but where substantial real money is concerned it is best to be flexible. oweing to the lack luster response at the website mentioned above, i feel there is insufficient interest in this award to warrent the effort. so i have decided to alter the parameters of the prize so as to attract a wider catchment group. by limiting the scope of the prize to the best contribution to science in 2007 in the united kingdom, i hope to include everyone at a relatively local level. but considering the lower prestige value, i have accordingly decided to adjust the prize amount back to the original 1000 pounds. i hope to award this prize anually. Please nominate candidates for the person who you think has made the best contribution to science in the united kingdom during 2007 at http://scienceprize.pro-board.com/ . > > >hi, > [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > - Show quoted text - hi, since there has been no responce at the website i am therefore again altering the parameters of this award. i am offering 4 awards of 250 pounds each in the categories of physics, biology/medicine, chemistry and economics. these are to be collected on the day after giving a 1 hour presentation at a british university. these awards are open to anyone, anywhere who thinks they have made a significant original contribution to science in 2007. please declair your interest at the website mentioned above. |
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