Natural Science Forum / Biology / Biology / January 2008

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Archie,

Both hypotheses are probably true:
the livestock  theory is correct for China,
and the garbage dump theory applies to
European hunter cultures.

Cheers, David H
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Archimedes Plutonium wrote:

Mr. Raymond Coppinger offered the garbage dump theory. The trouble I
have
with his theory is that a simplier theory explains the evolution
better. For
it harps back to the Russian fox experiment where all that is needed
is
penned up foxes that are selectively allowed to mate.

So instead of a garbage dump to transform wolf into dog, a better
scenerio
is wolves pups retained at the village for food eaten by early humans.
Wolves
as livestock food and those that were not eaten could mate amoung
themselves
and thus the dog was created.

We see this in other livestock animals where all the "wild traits" are
either eaten
as food or bred out.

another livestock food. Those that were not eaten had the chances
of breeding and producing more docile dogs.

Now I am going to include this dog story into my book of Stonethrowing
theory
for the reason that in science, it is very important to Logically lay
out a theory
with the utmost emphasis on logic.

A theory to explain the rise of dogs from wolves may not be as
difficult and
challenging of a test for theory crafting or theory making as is a
theory that
explains the rise of Homo sapiens out of an ancestral ape stock.

So the reason I want to include this snippet of theory making is to
shed light on
how important it is for scientists to apply the utmost of logic in
forming a theory.

What really distinguishes Humanity from apes? Obviously it is we walk
upright
and are bipeds but is that the root difference? Is there something
about humanity
that is very different from apes and which could give rise to
bipedalism itself?
And the answer by logic is a resounding yes. That the habit of
throwing rocks
and stones not only sets us apart from all apes but that this habit of
throwing
rocks and stones will set into motion a change in body muscles and
bones to
evolve toward bipedalism. So that the Throwing came first and set in
motion
the changes which would end up with Throwing and bipedalism.

So what the message I am trying to convey with this post on dog
evolution, is
that when we go to build or construct a theory of science, or best
helper is
Logic.

When you see the foxes in the Russian experiment verging to the same
features
of wild wolf to that of dog, then you do not need a garbage dump to
beget those
evolutionary changes. All you need is a similar situation in East Asia
some
15,000 years or more. All you need is an ancient village that eats
wild wolves
or their pups. That brings the pups to the village in order to eat
them. And where
some of the pups were not eaten but saved and those not eaten had to
be docile
and pet like. So we do not need a garbage dump to explain how
logically the dog
evolved.

Likewise the logic in Human evolution, where we do not need a Savannah
theory to
explain bipedalism because the Stonethrowing explanation is more
logically sound.

And then there are so many corny theories in anthropology such as the
"water ape"
which tries to explain the hairless Homo sapiens. By logic, alot of
hair especially in
the face region is a handicap to vision in throwing.

Archimedes Plutonium
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whole entire Universe is just one big atom
where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies