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#54 EPR, Bell Inequality, Aspect Experiments, Superdeterminism;     biophysics trilogy book series: "Darwin Evolution replaced by Superdeterminism     from Quantum Mechanics"

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plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com - 18 Apr 2008 00:10 GMT
Finally I reached a point where I wanted to reach in this trilogy
series. And it is fitting
that this is a trilogy series for all three books are interconnected
that a change in one
of the books instantly has a profound change in the other two books
(spooky action at
a distance)

Let me write this chapter to those readers who have never picked up a
physics book. So if I can
write this chapter so that those readers can understand what is said,
then I have achieved
my goal. That means little to no math.

Superdeterminism starts with a fight between Bohr and Einstein and
called
EPR (have to look up a historical date for EPR and some call it EPRB
to include Bohm.)
With EPR raging, in steps John Bell discovering a mathematical
inequality in 1964 that can
experimentally test whether Bohr was correct or Einstein was correct.

What was EPR? EPR was the fight between Bohr and Einstein where Bohr
said that if
you start two beams of light of information that are connected at the
start and then
transmit those two light beams in opposite directions clear across the
Cosmos, that if
you make a change or alteration in one beam of light when they are
separated that the
change instantly changes the other beam of light. Einstein said that a
change in one
beam cannot possible affect the other beam once separated.

Commonsense would have sided with Einstein, because, how in the world
would a change
or alteration in the information contained in beam A separated from
beam B by half way
across the Cosmos or even 90 percent of the way across the Cosmos,
that a change in
beam A could not possible affect beam B. Spooky action at a distance
cannot exist. That
is what Einstein believed. But Bohr was relying on the principles of
Quantum Mechanics
and those principles said that a change in either beam would instantly
cause a change in
the other beam, regardless of how far apart.

Now keep in mind, that EPR starts with a connected system, connected
information and
parameters and then separates. And once separated the question is
whether a change or
alteration of one beam affects the other beam.

After Bell gave his Inequality in 1964, we had for the first time a
means of testing whether
Bohr was correct or whether Einstein. Soon after Bell gave his
Inequality, a Frenchman
named Alain Aspect did the experiment to see who was right, was it
Einstein or Bohr? It was Bohr and it means that everything in the
Cosmos is connected
even if a change occurs to a light beam that had travelled to the
opposite end of the Cosmos.
So Bohr was correct and Spooky Action at a Distance is true.

But the story does not stop there, but only gets far better.

John Bell made the next critical insight into the EPR then Bell
Inequality then Aspect
Experiment results. It is now 1985 and before the BBC in England, John
Bell in a
lecture talks of Superdeterminism as the way forward and resolution of
Spooky Action
at a Distance. Because Spooky Action means there must be light
travelling faster
than the speed of light to change beam A or beam B. So Spooky Action
at a Distance
means Superluminal speeds. But we all know there is no speed faster
than the speed
of light.

So to resolve this problem of connectedness clear across the Cosmos,
Bell came up with
his most brilliant concept of Superdeterminism. That the Universe has
no free will and
where everything is ordered or fated to happen. Here is what John Bell
said in a BBC
interview in 1985, and there are three quotes listed here:

--- quoting John Bell ---

[Superdeterminism] involves absolute determinism in the universe,
the complete absence of free will. Suppose the world is
super-deterministic, with not just inanimate nature running on
behind-the-scenes clockwork, but with our behavior, including
our belief that we are free to choose to do one experiment
rather than another, absolutely predetermined, including the
"decision" by the experimenter to carry out one set of
measurements rather than another, the difficulty disappears.
There is no need for a faster than light signal to tell
particle A what measurement has been carried out on particle B,
because the universe, including particle A, already "knows"
what that measurement, and its outcome, will be.

......

There is a way to escape the inference of superluminal speeds and
spooky action at a distance.  But it involves absolute determinism
in the universe, the complete absence of free will. Suppose the
world is super-deterministic, with not just inanimate nature running
on behind-the-scenes clockwork, but with our behavior, including our
belief that we are free to choose to do one experiment rather than
another, absolutely predetermined, including the "decision" by the
experimenter to carry out one set of measurements rather than
another, the difficulty disappears.  There is no need for a faster
than light signal to tell particle A what measurement has been
carried  out on particle B, because the universe, including
particle A, already "knows" what that measurement, and its outcome,
will be.

......

 The only alternative to quantum probabilities, superpositions of
states, collapse of the wavefunction, and spooky action at a
distance, is that everything is superdetermined.   For me it is a
dilemma. I think it is a deep dilemma, and the resolution of it
will not be trivial; it will require a substantial change in the
way we look at things.

--- end of John Bell quotes ---

So that is physics and those experiments are repeatable. The Bell
Inequality and the
Aspect experiments are here to stay.

Whenever Quantum Mechanics had something say about a topic in physics
or any science,
whatever it was the QM said, it turned out that the QM was correct and
all the other ideas were
wrong.

But noone has applied that Superdeterminism to biology. One of the
reasons is because
Bell died in 1990 at
a very young age and was not able to thus apply his Superdeterminism.
Another reason is
that Superdeterminism does not work in a Big Bang model of the Cosmos
and when
Bell was alive there was only the Big Bang Cosmology. In order to
work, puppets need a
puppetmaster. So what makes Superdeterminism work is a Atom Totality
theory
where galaxies and stars are bits and pieces of the last electrons of
one big atom. Now we
have a puppetmaster as the Nucleus of the Atom Totality. So as we look
at the night sky
and see stars and galaxies we  really see is the dots of the electron
dot cloud of the last
electrons of a Atom Totality. The nucleus of this Cosmic Atom
is not easily seen. It is in the direction of what the astronomers
call the Great Attractor.

Now we can sew together biology with Quantum Mechanics. Can we have
Darwin Evolution
and yet no "free will"?
Can we have Evolution if all living creatures are puppets to a
puppetmaster? No, of course
not. What we can have is Darwin Evolution of its three components:
1) mutation
2) genetic recombination
3) reproductive isolation

But we cannot have Natural Selection (differential reproductive
success) since that is
based on probabilities and free-will.

But we need more components if the Universe is run by
Superdeterminism.
Superdeterminism accomodates those four components but adds at least
two new
components that biology is contained
within photons of light itself. This bridges physics with biology.

The two new components are that Photons or Neutrinos can duplicate
themselves
and the second new component is that Photons or Neutrinos have
"perfect DNA/RNA"
inside themselves.

Darwin Evolution can never explain how life itself started and this is
where physics adds
the two new components.
The gulf between nonliving and living is bridged by Quantum Mechanics
in saying that
within light or photons
is packaged DNA and RNA. This also answers how a puppetmaster can
control all life,
in that a mind or brain
does not do the thinking but that a brain has a photon shot into the
brain coming from the
Nucleus and where
that photon is descrambled into its "thought or idea".

First life was not created by billions of years of chemicals sloshing
around and zapped by
lightning. First life was
created when a photon or neutrino imparted its energy and within the
internal parts of the
photon came out a
blue green algae cell. Earth is bombarded daily by cosmic rays packing
energy as high as
10^14 MeV which is enough
energy to create a small insect on the spot.

Now I hope I have made the above as clear and easy as possible for
newcomers to understand
but if I have failed in that desire, it behooves me in future editions
of this book to keep trying
to simplify.

Archimedes Plutonium
www.iw.net/~a_plutonium
whole entire Universe is just one big atom
where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies
plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com - 18 Apr 2008 18:06 GMT
This post does not appear in a timely manner in a Google Search. As
previously, someone
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Can NANA check into this

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From: plutonium.archime...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 16:10:27 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Apr 17 2008 6:10 pm
Subject: #54 EPR, Bell Inequality, Aspect Experiments,
Superdeterminism; biophysics trilogy book series: "Darwin Evolution
replaced by Superdeterminism from Quantum Mechanics"

plutonium.archime...@gmail.com wrote:
> Finally I reached a point where I wanted to reach in this trilogy
> series. And it is fitting
[quoted text clipped - 220 lines]
> whole entire Universe is just one big atom
> where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies
plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com - 18 Apr 2008 18:48 GMT
Alright, let me run through the logic of Superdeterminism again only
more in summary form.

EPR was started around 1935 and later on with Bohm included EPRB was a
fight between
Bohr and Einstein. Was Bohr with Quantum Mechanics correct or was
Einstein who favored
Classical Newtonian Mechanics correct? The fight was whether a packet
of information was
divided and separated and then moved to opposite sides of the Cosmos,
and with a change
or alteration in one of the split packets causes a change in the
opposite direction moving
split packet. If Bohr and QM is correct then a change in packet B
automatically changes
packet A regardless of the distance between the packets. If Einstein
is correct, then a
change in either packet could never induce a change in the other
packet.

By 1964, an engineer named John Bell found a way of experimentally
testing EPRB which
is famously known as Bell Inequality. By the early 1980s Alain Aspect
in France set up
and conducted the experiment. The results of the experiment proved
that Bohr and Quantum
Mechanics won.

But the story does not end there for the most incredible and pretty
part of the story is yet
to come. In 1985, at a talk with the BBC, John Bell announced what is
probably his most
famous contribution to science-- Superdeterminism. I cannot say it any
better than John Bell
of 1985, so here are two of his quotes:

--- quoting John Bell ---

There is a way to escape the inference of superluminal speeds and
spooky action at a distance.  But it involves absolute determinism
in the universe, the complete absence of free will. Suppose the
world is super-deterministic, with not just inanimate nature running
on behind-the-scenes clockwork, but with our behavior, including our
belief that we are free to choose to do one experiment rather than
another, absolutely predetermined, including the "decision" by the
experimenter to carry out one set of measurements rather than
another, the difficulty disappears.  There is no need for a faster
than light signal to tell particle A what measurement has been
carried  out on particle B, because the universe, including
particle A, already "knows" what that measurement, and its outcome,
will be.

......

 The only alternative to quantum probabilities, superpositions of
states, collapse of the wavefunction, and spooky action at a
distance, is that everything is superdetermined.   For me it is a
dilemma. I think it is a deep dilemma, and the resolution of it
will not be trivial; it will require a substantial change in the
way we look at things.

--- end of John Bell quotes ---

So by 1985, as a result to the Bell Inequality and the Aspect
Experimental Results
that the world of physics now has superluminal speeds and has Spooky
Action at a
Distance. Now most physicists are not both physicists and
mathematicians at once.
Sometimes in the history of science we have a person gifted in both
physics and math
where they are at ease in both fields. Gauss was one of them and so
was Poincare.

So between 1985 and 2008, the physics community is dumbfounded in
interpretating and
understanding and explaining EPRB to Bell Inequalty to Aspect
Experiments to Superdeterminism.
The community of physicists are dumbfounded in understanding and
explaining this chain
of events. But to a mathematician, he can easily see what the true
interpretation is. He can
see that there is a contradiction of physics the moment you have
Spooky Action at a Distance
and once you have Superluminal Speeds. So the mathematician would say
"Yes sir, here is
a contradiction and the only true relief is something that eliminates
the contradiction."

What eliminates the contradiction of physics is Superdeterminism.

Now this is not the first time in the history of science where a field
of scientists of a subject
had a difficult time of "interpreting their findings". Where they
simply failed to put the logic
together and were so illogical that they kept rummaging on the edges
of the data and test results.
Where they kept saying, well it is inconclusive or there are loopholes
and other nonsense
excuses. Sort of reminds me of Global Warming denialists.

Anyway, there are no loopholes. EPRB through Bell Inequality through
Aspect Experiments
leads to one conclusion, that Quantum Mechanics exists over the entire
Cosmos and that
Superdeterminism is how the Universe operates.

It is sad that Bell died in the year 1990 and October of 1990, and it
is sad because November
of 1990 was discovered the Atom Totality theory. Sad because
Superdeterminism cannot
work in a Big Bang theory for there is no puppetmaster in a Big Bang
that controls all puppets.
In the Atom Totality theory, there is the Nucleus of the Atom Totality
which is the control
center of the Cosmos and thus we have a puppetmaster.

Now I made some mistakes in axiomatizing the Modern Synthesis of
Darwin Evolution. I made
a mistake by saying that Natural Selection does not fit with
Superdeterminism. I maybe wrong
on that but this post is already too long.

Archimedes Plutonium
www.iw.net/~a_plutonium
whole entire Universe is just one big atom
where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies
Archimedes Plutonium - 18 Apr 2008 19:36 GMT
Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
(snipped)

> Now I made some mistakes in axiomatizing the Modern Synthesis of
> Darwin Evolution. I made
> a mistake by saying that Natural Selection does not fit with
> Superdeterminism. I maybe wrong
> on that but this post is already too long.

Previously Archimedes Plutonium wrote:

(cut)

> So, now, the new axioms of biology under the theory of
> Superdeterminism would go like this:

> 1) Photons and neutrinos of physics can duplicate
> 2) Photons and neutrinos of physics pack inside themselves "perfect
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> 6) Genetic Recombination
> 7) Reproductive Isolation

I made some mistakes above. I thought the axiom that falsifies Darwin
Evolution is the Natural Selection axiom (differential reproductive
success). It is not the axiom that tears apart Darwin Evolution, for
what tears apart Darwin Evolution is not even stated in these four
axioms of (1) mutation (2) genetic recombination (3) Natural Selection
(4) Reproductive Isolation.

Now I got those four axioms from this old book which started my
adventure way back in the 1970s, specifically 1975, when I ventured out
to find a mathematization of Darwin Evolution theory. I wanted to axiomatize
the Darwin Evolution. So here I am in 2008, some 25 plus 8 equals 33
years later and finally doing what I started doing.

The book that started me on this road of adventure is Concepts of
Biology, Buffaloe & Throneberry, 1973, and on pages 239 through 250
gives the Modern Synthesis of Darwin Evolution theory as four operating
axioms (1) Mutation (2) Genetic Recombination (3) Natural Selection
and (4) Reproductive Isolation.

Now what if all four of those concepts merged into Superdeterminism.
Where all 4 concepts agreed and were a part of Superdeterminism. Where
none of those 4 concepts disagreed with Superdeterminism. Then, would
Darwin Evolution theory be a subset and that Superdeterminism would be
merely an Extension of Darwin Evolution and so in this manner, an
extension of Darwin Evolution keeps the theory all intact and all
correct.

I wish it were so simple, but I am afraid that Darwin Evolution is not
a subset of Superdeterminism and that Superdeterminism is not a
extension of Darwin Evolution.

I was wrong in an earlier post where I said that the concept of Natural
Selection was the offending concept that contradicted Superdeterminism.
It is more complex than that.

Upon reflection and more thought, I come to realize the troublespot.
The Modern Synthesis is not a complete list of the axioms with its
mere set of 4 axioms listed above.

What Buffaloe & Throneberry missed and all the other biologists missed
in listing the 4 axioms of the Modern Synthesis are two hidden and
implied axioms.

If Buffaloe & Throneberry and all the other Darwin writers had read
Darwin's book on Evolution would have realized that Darwin had two
hidden assumed axioms of these two:

(5) world operates on Free-Will (6) events and actions have
probabilities in a Cosmos of Newtonian Mechanics.

If any scientist carefully reads Darwins famous books on the Origin of
Species and all of his other works of science. If anyone reads them,
cannot fail to miss the fact that throughout his works of science, that
Darwin has two hidden assumptions that permeate his work. Those two
assumptions are that the world is Newtonian Mechanics with probabilities
of events or actions taking place and second hidden assumption is that
there exists Free Will and choices.

So the proper and more correct Modern Synthesis of Darwin Evolution that
Buffaloe & Throneberry should have enumerated into a list that contains
not 4 axioms but 6 axioms of these:

(1) Newtonian Mechanics Cosmos where life events and actions have
probabilities
(2) there exists Free-Will and choice in the Cosmos
(3) mutation
(4) genetic recombination
(5) Natural Selection (differential reproductive success)
(6) reproductive isolation

So the four axioms that Buffaloe & Throneberry gave for the Modern
Synthesis never really contradicted Superdeterminism and as such would
have Darwin Evolution theory as a extension of the Superdeterminism
theory. But the trouble was that Darwin Evolution theory as given by
only those four axioms is not a complete listing of Darwin Evolution
theory. Once a complete listing is given then we see the contradictions
between Darwin Evolution and Superdeterminism.

Mutations in Darwin Evolution are based on probabilities of the Cosmos.
Mutations in Superdeterminism were fated and ordered up to occurr. So
here we immediately see where Evolution contradicts Superdeterminism and
where Superdeterminism cannot be a Extension of Darwin Evolution.

Archimedes Plutonium
www.iw.net/~a_plutonium
whole entire Universe is just one big atom
where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies
 
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