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how a cat preys on a mature rabbit; weasel

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Archimedes Plutonium - 21 May 2005 09:00 GMT
I was hoping to find an answer in Google search of the Internet as to
how a cat can capture a mature cottontail rabbit. The behaviour of cats
in hunting mature rabbits. I would imagine a rabbit would have quite a
kick in running to get away from a cat. I found nothing in Google to
describe the interaction.

From my own experience when a cat senses a mature rabbit is around, she
climbs a high vantage point to watch for the rabbit to get closer. That
is all I witnessed but did not see the cat strike for the rabbit.

So I wonder if anyone has witnessed in the field the live action of how
a regular cat can catch a mature cottontail.

I have heard that weasels prey on mature rabbits and their method is to
bite the mature rabbit which then goes running off but leaving a blood
scent trail which the weasel then follows and the rabbit unable to graze
and gain strength and the weasel further bites the wounded rabbit and
finally the weasel is able to keep running pace with the wounded rabbit
and bites in the neck region for death.

So I suppose a cat would claw the rabbit long enough for the cat to get
its teeth attached which may give the cat a ride for a distance but not
long before the rabbit loses all strength.

Has anyone eyewitnessed cats preying on rabbits?

Archimedes Plutonium
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bae@cs.toronto.no-uce.edu - 23 May 2005 03:43 GMT
>I was hoping to find an answer in Google search of the Internet as to
>how a cat can capture a mature cottontail rabbit. The behaviour of cats
>in hunting mature rabbits. I would imagine a rabbit would have quite a
>kick in running to get away from a cat. I found nothing in Google to
>describe the interaction.

Rabbits easily outrun cats if they get the least head start.  I saw a
young cat trying to run down a rabbit once, and the rabbit effortlessly
kept ahead, while leading the cat around in a semicircle, until it
vanished into its burrow.  The cat was going as flat out as I've ever
seen a cat run, and was extremely embarrassed.  I laughed so hard my
belly hurt.

>From my own experience when a cat senses a mature rabbit is around, she
>climbs a high vantage point to watch for the rabbit to get closer. That
>is all I witnessed but did not see the cat strike for the rabbit.

Cats like high vantage points, but they hunt on the ground by lurking in
concealment, slow stalking, and short fast pounces.

>So I wonder if anyone has witnessed in the field the live action of how
>a regular cat can catch a mature cottontail.
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>Has anyone eyewitnessed cats preying on rabbits?

Cats almost invariably kill prey by a quick bite to the back of the
neck, severing the spinal cord by inserting a well-adapted fang between
two cervical vertebrae.  I've seen numerous rabbits and hares that were
killed by cats, and none of them showed other injuries.

I don't know what the size limit on prey is for house cats, but I've
observed by actual measurement that a 3kg female cat can kill a 0.8kg
snowshoe hare and drag it home.   Hares weigh a lot less than you'd
think from their superficial appearance.  For three days the cat didn't
do much but gorge and sleep.  When she was done there was nothing left
of the hare but a few tufts of fur.
Archimedes Plutonium - 23 May 2005 20:54 GMT
> >I was hoping to find an answer in Google search of the Internet as to
> >how a cat can capture a mature cottontail rabbit. The behaviour of cats
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> do much but gorge and sleep.  When she was done there was nothing left
> of the hare but a few tufts of fur.

I am very much suspicious of your claim of 0.8 kg versus 3kg. From my own
experience in shoveling up a dead body of a (lead-free pellet shooting) of a
mature cottontail is about the equal weight of my female Manx cat. And this Manx
cat easily pulls down cottontails as judging from the leftover fur underneath the
building she lives. There is a neighborhood orange tomcat that regularly goes
through the grounds hunting specifically for rabbits. And I have seen on occasion
about 3 rabbits come running in my direction and I was bewildered as to why they
came running into my direction and then I spotted the reason-- the orange tomcat
was on its rounds. So apparently rabbits have some sort of group communication.

I dispute your claim of a rabbit hole. From what I have seen of rabbits is that
they work out a flight-path which involves woods and thickets and brush and
woodpiles and stacks of material. I noticed a baby rabbit keep running through a
hedge row and would come back and forth. And then I realized that this baby rabbit
was working out a flight-path in case a predator comes along.

I noticed that the usual behaviour of a rabbit under chase is that the rabbit
knows its pathway that involves stops or halts to a predator chasing it. They love
brambles and sticker hedges because as soon as the dog come close, the dog is
forced to stop. The rabbit has a hole into and through the stickers but the dog
stops at the edge. The only time I have seen a rabbit remain is when it feels
secure in the pile of wood or pile of concrete where the predator cannot follow
into, but no hole in the ground is safe from a dog. So the rabbit seems to send
the dog through a maze that stops and halts the dog along the way whereas the
rabbit goes running away further to another maze.

I suspect the manner of a Cat that catches a mature cottontail is that the Cat has
a longer term memory. The cat is on a prowl looking for where a rabbit nests. A
pile of wood is a great cat vantage point because the cat realizes the rabbit
lives in the pile of wood and the cat smells out the rabbits entry and exit points
and then the cat perches on top of the wood for hours and hours and perhaps days
and when the rabbit comes out. Either the rabbit does not have a memory like the
cat to know that the cat is still around and waiting or whether the rabbit knows
the cat is waiting still, but has to forage in order to live.

So I think the secret to cat preying on rabbits is that they figure out where a
rabbit lives and nests and then waits perched on high to pounce on the rabbit when
it comes out. Anyone know of the brain size of rabbits compared to cats? I think
they are about the same. But brain size is no indication of whether one animal has
a longer memory capacity to the other animal.

What I need to be clarified is how the cat uses its claws when catching a rabbit.
Whether the claws are able to hold the rabbit long enough for that vertebrae bite
to the neck that you speak of.

What is amazing about this whole thread is that humanity does not have a
eye-witness account of how cats kill rabbits. I do not mean tame rabbits but wild
rabbits in the wild. We have film of rare animals and on TV some months back some
wildlife photographer captured snow tigers and how they live and prey. Another
photographer captured the behaviour of about 5 or 7 species of rare African
big-cats and how they live. But what is ironic and funny is that not a single
human being has captured on film how a common cat catches wild rabbits which must
happen almost daily as we speak. Perhaps one of the reasons no person has captured
on film this behaviour of cats is because rabbits forage mostly at night time and
perhaps no photographer has gone out at night to film this behaviour.

So I think what happens, should some photographer finally capture cat behaviour on
film is that the cat figures out where the rabbit nests and then perches on high
near the entrance or exit and the cat is so much more patient then the rabbit and
when the rabbit starts to come out the cat springs on top of the rabbit. And how
the claws play into the fight kill with the bite on the neck to sever the spinal
cord.

So much of TV is filled with garbage. We called it the "wasteland" in the 1960s.
Stuff that wastes a persons lifetime, not enhances it. What should be on TV is
programs like the big-cats of Africa. And a show on how cats actually catch and
kill rabbits. Instead of the "petty-airhead actors and actresses" filling the TV
waves, fill it with something of genuine value and interest-- such as how cats
catch rabbits. TV should be about 90% science and not shows depicting airhead
people.

Archimedes Plutonium
www.iw.net/~a_plutonium
whole entire Universe is just one big atom
where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies
 
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