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Weatherlawyer - 17 Jul 2008 14:36 GMT
18th to 25th July: 07:59. This spell is an 8 o'clock

And the last spell was based on the phase of the moon being somewhere
near 4 o'clock.

I get the idea that these spells are similar except that with the
first, the weathr is warm and a Low presents itself at the North Pole.
Tropical storms occur on the Norrth American coasts of the Pacific and
Atlantic.

With the coming spell I imagine the predominant spell ovr the North
Pole will be an High. Tropical storms will occur in the Asian oceans.
And we will have uch the same weather only it will be a lot colder.

Now then children, a little homework:

WTF is going on?
Weatherlawyer - 17 Jul 2008 15:34 GMT
> 18th to 25th July: 07:59. This spell is an 8 o'clock
>
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>
> WTF is going on?

Time to take a look at some simple geopodolatory.

Baer's Law declares that in Russia, the rivers bear to the right
because of the way the world turns:

Baer's law: Because of the rotation of the earth, in the northern
hemisphere, erosion occurs mostly on the right banks of rivers, and in
the southern hemisphere on the left banks. In 1926 Albert Einstein
wrote a paper explaining the causes of the phenomenon.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baer's_law

There is precious little on the "Net" about the man. Maybe the Ruskis
are keeping him to themselves?

What Einstein had to say in agreement with him was that:
helical flow develops in a meandering river, and that because the
higher-velocity portions of the stream will be driven to the outside
portion of the river bend, erosion will be greater there.

He also noted that because the helical flow possesses inertia, the
circulation  will be at their maximum beyond the inflection of the
curve. Hence, the wave-form of the river will migrate in a down-
current direction. Finally, Einstein explained that the larger the
cross-sectional area of a river, the slower the helical flow will be
absorbed by friction; which explains why larger rivers have meander
patterns with longer wavelengths.
http://www.searchanddiscovery.net/documents/Einstein/albert.htm

Apart from the fact that rivers run fastest at top dead centre and
that deposition is greatest immediatley beneath that point, I can't
say much mor than the rest is obvious.

Einstein alluded to Coriolis' supposition that the motion of the earth
has force. It does not. Any science student from 13 years old on up is
aware of why not.

But geologists are not particularly good at physics in my not very
humble. So without appeal to acoustics, a finite but intangible get
out clause for all things planetary, we have to look at the bigger
picture above ground.

Which is that if the learned professor Baer was correct in his
advocacy, then the source of the river has to be examined.

Without a mountain range, you can not have a river. Your garden would
be marshy and its deluvial libations, decidedly biblical; -the rain
would be rare and the mists would be plentiful.

But with mountain ranges you get valley plains and fertile slopes. And
rivers. And weather from the west.

Which in the Northern Hemisphere is the same for both main landmasses
wth the exception of the Orient -which I can not comment on due to the
poor supply of weather information from Russia and China.

Starting the system at the Atlantic, we get moist air coming in from
the northern regions. This flow falls on the western coasts and drains
into rivers that according to Baer, tend to the south if they flow to
the east and to the north if they flow to the west.

Is this really so?

With Rusian rivers moving North and North American ones moving south,
one day the Mississippi and the Ob will only be separated by the Mid
Atlantic ridge.
Jack (jack.harrison@gmail.com) - 17 Jul 2008 15:48 GMT
Surely someone will mention the "Hollow Earth".

Jack
JPG - 17 Jul 2008 16:03 GMT
On 17 Jul, 15:48, "Jack (jack.harri...@gmail.com)"
<jack.harri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Surely someone will mention the "Hollow Earth".

No, it's turtles all the way down.

> Jack
Weatherlawyer - 17 Jul 2008 23:01 GMT
> On 17 Jul, 15:48, "Jack (jack.harri...@gmail.com)"
>
> <jack.harri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Surely someone will mention the "Hollow Earth".
>
> No, it's turtles all the way down.

I prefer to believe that we live on the surface of an ocean that we
have yet to penetrate. Meanwhile we live at the confluence of the two
oceans that barely a century ago, they too would have seemed as
inpenetrable.

These days we consider ourselves to be the masters of the universe
because we can now at great peril, plumb the depths of one and gain
temporary access to the top of the other.

All without a satisfactory description of the term "fluid".
Timberwoof - 18 Jul 2008 03:45 GMT
In article
<96edea3c-6d8a-4674-8b07-91f91b45c51d@d77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,

> > On 17 Jul, 15:48, "Jack (jack.harri...@gmail.com)"
> >
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>
> All without a satisfactory description of the term "fluid".

What do you make of the fact that some materials pass P-waves and
S-waves, but others pass only P-waves?

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emptying chamber pots in your direction." ‹Chris L.

Weatherlawyer - 18 Jul 2008 04:54 GMT
On Jul 18, 3:45 am, Timberwoof <timberwoof.s...@inferNOnoSPAMsoft.com>
wrote:
> In article
> <96edea3c-6d8a-4674-8b07-91f91b45c...@d77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> What do you make of the fact that some materials pass P-waves and
> S-waves, but others pass only P-waves?

You are trying to pass as law the findings of an early theorist called
Mohorivicic, whose research came up with the idea that the lack of
location of said "waves" at a point somewhere between the event
horizon and the singularity?

And for this the matrix is termed a fluid -but only at certain
undefined predetermined depths?

Tidal Theory.

Consider for the first time in your short extragenesis, the term
"fluid".

Merely describing the word disposes of the popular misconceptions
tidal theory, without so much as approaching a physics text book.

Page one of a physics text book would, in the first two or three
chapters, suffice to have the practitioners of of Oceanography at the
JPL and Rutherford laboratories, hung as charlatans. Consider:

Chapter 1 Paragraph 1: Motion.

Displacement is the measure of Movement in a certain Direction,
changes in displacement give us the Speed involved and the rate of
change of displacement is called Velocity.

Paragraph 2: Acceleration.
The rate of change of Velocity is called Acceleration, such that if
the change is from rate A to rate B, the Time taken to make that
change T is the acceleration -which equals= (A-B) / T.

Paragraph 3: Vectors.

Thus the Vectors V of a minute particle of a fluid f at or near the
surface of the Earth E will reach Zero Z at the height H of any
Trajectory UP imparted to it by any Force F less than Escape Velocity,
ET that causes it to rise above the earth E, regardless of the
position of the Moon M.

Paragraph 4....

You get the point?

May I ask what you make of the distribution of the planet's aerial
storms vis a vis the waves P & S you enquired about? Or do you think
that prattle P will suffice S for ignorance Yours and sufficient
quantities of either Ebygum can serve you indefinitely Y?

Damn! D
There goes my resolution R to be nice N.
Weatherlawyer - 21 Jul 2008 22:34 GMT
> On 17 Jul, 15:48, "Jack (jack.harri...@gmail.com)"
>
> <jack.harri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Surely someone will mention the "Hollow Earth".
>
> No, it's turtles all the way down.

But on the inside we get a lot of sulphur products with the
intfraoceanic estuarine-type stuff.

And with sulphur salts we can introduce photon mechanisms.

Hmm...

Put me down for a fiver on the hollow earth one.
Weatherlawyer - 21 Jul 2008 22:52 GMT
> Put me down for a fiver on the hollow earth one.

Which theory is evidentally suspect in that creatures of the black
lagoon will not have eyes in the way we would understand them.

Of course with translucent skin....

Better make that a tenner.
Dawlish - 18 Jul 2008 06:27 GMT
> 18th to 25th July: 07:59. This spell is an 8 o'clock
>
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>
> WTF is going on?

But W, any theory such as this would have its proof measured in
practice. Times, dates and strengths. You are very willing to do this
via where the moon is in the sky at a certain time, but completely
unwilling to do this for outcomes. If it is not possible to predict
with any accuracy, whatsoever, with your ideas.....what is there use?

So many deeply held ideas (by small minorities, usually) cannot be
proven in practice; astrology is still one, phrenology was another. It
is possible to predict from neither. Unless you, or others, can use
your theories to predict; it has to be consigned to the same dustbin.

"With the coming spell I imagine the predominant spell ovr the North
Pole will be an High. Tropical storms will occur in the Asian oceans.
And we will have uch the same weather only it will be a lot colder."

So; where, when and to what degree? Same with earthquakes and
volcanoes, which, since I've been monitoring, your theories failed
miserably to predict. You propound these things, but never, ever,
return to analyse them, or keep records of your accuracy.
Weatherlawyer - 18 Jul 2008 09:39 GMT
> > 18th to 25th July: 07:59. This spell is an 8 o'clock
>
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> miserably to predict. You propound these things, but never, ever,
> return to analyse them, or keep records of your accuracy.

18th to 25th July: 07:59. This spell is an 8 o'clock one.
For the duration of the spell.

And the last spell was based on the phase of the moon being somewhere
near 4 o'clock.

Fot its duration. 3rd rock from the sun, as usual. (The one right next
to the moon that is.)

I get the idea that these spells are similar except that with the
first, the weather was warm and a Low presented itself at the North
Pole.

That's the astronomical one which appears on the relevant weather
charts. Same 90 degree north location as was.

Tropical storms occurred on the North American coasts of the Pacific
and Atlantic.

As predicted.

With the coming spell, I imagine the predominant weather mass over the
North Pole will be an High,  such tropical storms as will occur during
the run, will tend to occur in the Indian and West Pacific oceans. As
opposed to the ones that occurred with the previous spell, which were
located near North America.

And we will have much the same weather in Britain as with the
preceding phase with the exception that it will be a lot colder.

Which is a matter of degree depending on the previous experience. Your
mileage will vary from mine.

> But Your Majesty, any theory such as this would have its proof measured in
> practice.

And you really need the practice, so get cracking.
Dawlish - 18 Jul 2008 10:56 GMT
> > > 18th to 25th July: 07:59. This spell is an 8 o'clock
>
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>
> - Show quoted text -

But W; it's all hindsight. Anyone could say thet they've predicted
something after the event. Where's the evidence that you actually
predicted the time, dates and strength BEFORE it actually happened,
instead of telling us that you have, post-event? Please try to stay
non-abusive and argue your case cogently.

Predict some things, clearly, using your theories, then return to
analyse your predictions, after the events. It's not much to ask, but
it the ONLY way you are going to get anyone to take you seriously.
Weatherlawyer - 18 Jul 2008 11:10 GMT
> Where's the evidence that you actually
> predicted the time, dates and strength BEFORE it actually happened,
Online.

I presume you can use a search engine.

I would be more than willing to help if you can't. (If I was. But I
ain't.)
Dawlish - 18 Jul 2008 13:50 GMT
> > Where's the evidence that you actually
> > predicted the time, dates and strength BEFORE it actually happened,
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> I would be more than willing to help if you can't. (If I was. But I
> ain't.)

1/5 correct, in the prediction of earthquakes, that you've been good
enough to share with us. 20%. Every single large earthquake of >6.5mag
missed, since then, including Sichuan. No major eruption correctly
predicted, including Chaiten, the biggest of the year. It's hard to
argue with those outcomes. I very much doubt that your methods have
any use whatsoever, but I'm open to persuasion, if you could
demonstrate continued outcome success tht is significantly better than
chance.
Weatherlawyer - 18 Jul 2008 17:33 GMT
> 18th to 25th July: 07:59. This spell is an 8 o'clock
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Pole will be an High. Tropical storms will occur in the Asian oceans.
> And we will have uch the same weather only it will be a lot colder.

5.0  2008/07/18 12:47  37.8N. 87.0E.    S Xinjiang, China
5.7  2008/07/17 22:52  44.4N. 129.4W. Off the coast of Oregon, USA.
5.5  2008/07/17 22:36  44.4N. 129.3W. Off the coast of Oregon, USA.
5.0  2008/07/17 16:40  31.7N. 104.2E.  E Sichuan, China
5.1  2008/07/16 22:58  33.2N.  92.0E.   S Qinghai, China.

So, with that pair of Oregon quakes, the writing is on the wall for
one of these:
http://satellite.ehabich.info/hurricane-watch.htm

Bertha looks favourite. She had a good run though. And kept me
waiting. The bugger.

Nothing too outre going on here:
http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/wwa/
Dawlish - 19 Jul 2008 08:25 GMT
> > 18th to 25th July: 07:59. This spell is an 8 o'clock
>
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>
> Nothing too outre going on here:http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/wwa/

I don't see any mention of the 7.0 Honshu earthquake. How could you
miss that if your theories work?

Basically, W; this just doesn't work, does it? Much of it is based on
hindsight and it is written, deliberately, I feel in gobbledygook.
Your theory is not able to predict anything important for people. I
think it is a hobby for yourself, with no practical application
whatsoever. Sorry to disappoint you, but that's the conclusion I've
reached from monitoring what you do. It's just bad science.

Change my mind by accurately predicting something which can't be
predicted by other means. I'm pretty sure that you can't do that and
if you can't - your hobby is simply useless to anyone else.
Weatherlawyer - 19 Jul 2008 09:18 GMT
> Nothing too outre going on here:http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/wwa/

But there is here: >
7.0 M. 2008/07/19 02:39. 37.6N. 142.1E. Off the east coast of Honshu,
Japan.

We have another example of the criticality of fluids once more. Two
consecutive 5.5s (or thereabouts) in much the same place, followed by
the stepping down in the power of a cyclone and then something on the
other side of that Fluid Mac Number: 666, a 7.

Either that or the dafties are right about plate tectonics. Bloody
morons. They will cling to any alternative to the truth until it is
too painful to just watch them. Anything other than see the
startlingly obvious.
Dawlish - 19 Jul 2008 10:22 GMT
> > Nothing too outre going on here:http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/wwa/
>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> too painful to just watch them. Anything other than see the
> startlingly obvious.

Or, intelligent enough to know that this alternative is gobbledygook
and only peddled by a pitifully tiny group of people......which may,
in the form that you present it, number precisely one in total. Of
course, the one who believes it to be true, would consider everybody
else  morons and dafties whilst believing himself to be the one
genius. All those scientists, completely wrong and you right. It must
make you feel good every day.

If the reasoning is "startlingly obvious" and everyone else on the
planet is missing it, why did you do only do as well as well as the
morons and dafties, in completely failing to predict Sichuan, Chaiten
and now Hunshu? If all this is "startlingly obvious", why can't you
actually use your theories to predict?

Go on W, predict us an earthquake - or your hobby remains exactly
that; a hobby.
Weatherlawyer - 19 Jul 2008 12:01 GMT
> > Nothing too outre going on here:http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/wwa/
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> the stepping down in the power of a cyclone and then something on the
> other side of that Fluid Mac Number: 666, a 7.

And more:

5.6 M.    July 19th. 09:35. 11.0 S. 164.5 E. Santa Cruz Islands region.
6.7 M.    July 19th. 09:27. 11.0 S. 164.5 E. Santa Cruz Islands region.
5.3 M.    July 19th. 02:48. 37.6 N. 142.3 E. Off the East coast of
Honshu, Japan
7.0 M.    July 19th. 02:39  37.6 N. 142.1 E. Off the East coast of
Honshu, Japan

Either 2 more cyclones take an hit or there is one copping for both of
the above. Which is rather disconcerting if true.
Weatherlawyer - 19 Jul 2008 20:34 GMT
> > > Nothing too outre going on here:http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/wwa/
>
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> Either 2 more cyclones take an hit or there is one copping for both of
> the above. Which is rather disconcerting if true.

From The Wikipedia:

The Huygens-Fresnel principle is a method of analysis applied to
problems of wave propagation. It recognizes that each point of an
advancing wave front is in fact the centre of a fresh disturbance and
the source of a new train of waves; and that the advancing wave as a
whole may be regarded as the sum of all the secondary waves arising
from points in the medium already traversed.

For example, if two rooms are connected by an open doorway and a sound
is produced in a remote corner of one of them, a person in the other
room will hear the sound as if it originated at the doorway. As far as
the second room is concerned, the vibrating air in the doorway is the
source of the sound.

Huygens principle:
Wave functions of every object propagate over any and all unobstructed
paths from the source to the point. It is the result of the
interference of all its paths; the amplitudes and the phases of the
wave functions of the object at any given point, all wave trains
behave so.

A point source generates waves that travel spherically in all
directions. The sum of the waves from all the point-sources at any
point  can be calculated.

There are points where minimal interference and where destructive
interference occurs, for example, when their path lengths differ by
λ / 2 (a 180 degrees phase difference). For three waves to cancel each
other, the phases must differ by 120 degrees, thus path differences
must be λ / 3, and so forth.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huygens%27_principle
Weatherlawyer - 19 Jul 2008 21:18 GMT
From another thread:
> http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsus/Maps/US10/42.52.-130....

That system / continuum..
seems to be locked into the behaviour of what used to be hurricane
Bertha.

Tornadic stuff tends to die down when there are a lot of active
tropical storms.
And of course there is a minimum of activity if such TSs are in the
North Atlantic.
> http://www.spc.noaa.gov/climo/reports/080718_rpts.html

There is as yet, no explanation or reason that two aparently unrelated
fluid phenomena are related the way Oregon's seismology and the North
Atlantic's meteorology are.

However once you consider the planet itself as a fluid (or field
perhaps?) you can introduce the concept of phasors. And as the
rotation of the field coincides with the frequency of seismic waves
(as it would would it not?) and the interference of the rest of the
solar system becomes involved, there is fair scope for the allusion.
Dawlish - 20 Jul 2008 13:00 GMT
> From another thread:

> There is as yet, no explanation or reason that two aparently unrelated
> fluid phenomena are related the way Oregon's seismology and the North
> Atlantic's meteorology are.

Have you considered that there is no explanation, because there is
simply no relationship? You've just found 2 earthquakes in Oregon, at
the same time as some meteorology has happened in the North Atlantic
and decided there's a relationship. Then, after highlighting the two
unrelated phenomena and deducing a relationship from a that very small
sample, you've found a couple of articles on Wiki about something
complex, but in the same field, to try to back the spurious
relationship.

Theories are proven by experimental reproduction. Do it and you'll
have people taking notice. Without that, you are very probably talking
complete nonsense.

Predict us the location and strength of an earthquake, or a volcanic
eruption, using your theories. Then do it again a few times. That's
all I ask.
Weatherlawyer - 20 Jul 2008 04:16 GMT
> > > Nothing too outre going on here:http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/wwa/
>
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> Either 2 more cyclones take an hit or there is one copping for both of
> the above. Which is rather disconcerting if true.

ACTIVE STORMS:

Cristobal (Atlantic)
Fausto (E. Pacific)
Bertha (Atlantic)
Elida (E. Pacific)

http://www.hurricanezone.net/
http://satellite.ehabich.info/hurricane-watch.htm

Meanwhile contemporary seismologists, earthwide, will realise
immediately the cycles of high intensity such as:

5.3
6.4
5.3
5.2
6.3
5.6
6.7
5.3
7
... as just one of those things.

Like, we have these plates and ...the crockery gets a little excited
now and again in their love making and ...carried away, so to speak.
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_big.phphttp://eart
hquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_big.php

Weatherlawyer - 21 Jul 2008 04:59 GMT
> ACTIVE STORMS:
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> http://www.hurricanezone.net/
> http://satellite.ehabich.info/hurricane-watch.htm

ACTIVE STORMS

Dolly (NW Caribbean)
Cristobal (Atlantic)
Fausto (E. Pacific)
Bertha (Atlantic)
Weatherlawyer - 22 Jul 2008 23:27 GMT
> > ACTIVE STORMS:
>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> Fausto (E. Pacific)
> Bertha (Atlantic)

ACTIVE STORMS
Dolly (Gulf of Mexico)
Cristobal (Atlantic)
Genevieve (E. Pacific)
Fausto (E. Pacific)

Fausto and the gals go around the outside around the outside around
the outside
Fausto and the gals go around the outside ain't trailer trashin
whores.

Fausto and the gals go around the outside around the outside around
the outside
Fausto and the gals go around the outside whip them boats ashore.

Bertha and her pals go up the northside up the northside up the
northside
Bertha and her cells go up the northside REAL North Atlantic.Lows: >
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/topkarten/fsfaxsem.html
Weatherlawyer - 24 Jul 2008 05:00 GMT
A planet with smaller planets orbiting it was problematic for the
orderly, comprehensive picture of the geocentric model of the
universe, in which everything was supposed to circle around the Earth.
As a consequence, many astronomers and philosophers initially refused
to believe that Galileo could have discovered such a thing.

Galileo continued to observe the satellites over the next eighteen
months, and by mid 1611 he had obtained remarkably accurate estimates
for their periods—a feat which Kepler had believed impossible.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_Galilei

Leaving aside the fools he had to deal with, the structured thought at
the end of the dark ages was violently disinclined to allow any leeway
to a science that was a given in most arian philosphies but ran
counter to the dogma of trinitarian ones.

Einstein came up against another philosphy in his later years, the
dogma of chance. Could god be playing dice with the solar system?

It allowed the dogma of chaos theory to fall off its flat earthed
backside into the present state of affairs. If it had been allowed to
flower as a fractal representation the universe with its mutiplicity
of micro~ and macro~ cosms, it might have blossomed into the reasoned
logic that:

If he does play dice, he lets us share the game on equal terms.

Consider simple number theory and chance. If the planet were  one of a
set of dice; which as it happens, it does resemble, then the chances
are the moon behaves as the other in the pair.

And perhaps the sun is another but at its distance, or due to the
constraints of the other planets, we can ignore it or assume it always
throws a six, then the numbers that can come up are somewhere between
1 and 6 or 2 and 12.
Or even 1 and 12.

Which fits nicely on the scale of natural hazards.

Coincidence?
Perhaps, or not.
As the case may be.
Dawlish - 24 Jul 2008 07:49 GMT
> A planet with smaller planets orbiting it was problematic for the
> orderly, comprehensive picture of the geocentric model of the
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> Perhaps, or not.
> As the case may be.

You quote Einstein and Galileo?? I hope it is not in comparison! Their
theories have been seen to work. Their outcomes can be replicated.
Einsteins theoretical predictions are constantly being validated. The
science has moved on, but the main body of their work was correct.

You cannot predict from your theories. You won't collate any records.
You won't return to predictions and explain why they were not correct.
Thus, it appears that they have no use.
Joe Egginton - 24 Jul 2008 08:53 GMT
>> A planet with smaller planets orbiting it was problematic for the
>> orderly, comprehensive picture of the geocentric model of the
[quoted text clipped - 48 lines]
> You won't return to predictions and explain why they were not correct.
> Thus, it appears that they have no use.

Weatherlawyer is taking the p*ss, it's all one p*ss take. He doesn't
believe in what he says.  He only says it to wind up people.

Signature

Joe Egginton
Wolverhampton
175m asl

Weatherlawyer - 24 Jul 2008 11:08 GMT
> > You quote Einstein and Galileo?? I hope it is not in comparison! Their
> > theories have been seen to work. Their outcomes can be replicated.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> > You won't return to predictions and explain why they were not correct.
> > Thus, it appears that they have no use.

Good boy. Who is a clever fellow. Nice do... err.... boy.

Would you like another biscuit?

> Weatherlawyer is taking the p*ss, it's all one p*ss take. He doesn't
> believe in what he says.  He only says it to wind up people.

Good though eh?

Well I find it compulsive at any rate.

Talking about taking the p*ss, how do you stop him drinking from the
toilet bowl?
Dawlish - 24 Jul 2008 11:36 GMT
> > > You quote Einstein and Galileo?? I hope it is not in comparison! Their
> > > theories have been seen to work. Their outcomes can be replicated.
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> Talking about taking the p*ss, how do you stop him drinking from the
> toilet bowl?

Whatever, really. I'll continue to help, by monitoring your forecasts
to see if there really is any use in what you do.
Weatherlawyer - 24 Jul 2008 15:03 GMT
> Whatever, really. I'll continue to help, by monitoring your forecasts
> to see if there really is any use in what you do.

There's nice innit? Help yourself to the biscuit.
Weatherlawyer - 24 Jul 2008 23:21 GMT
> > Weatherlawyer is taking the p*ss, it's all one p*ss take. He doesn't
> > believe in what he says.  He only says it to wind up people.
>
> Good though eh?
>
> Well I find it compulsive at any rate.

Here's a number list that the coincidences appealed to me sitting in
front of a home PC zenning what the finest duperstupour compoopers
c*n't:
1
33
1,000

I bet no one can guess what it is.

It should not be a surprise to people because we know that human error
can always occur
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/2115522.stm
Dawlish - 23 Jul 2008 18:22 GMT
> 18th to 25th July: 07:59. This spell is an 8 o'clock
>
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> Pole will be an High. Tropical storms will occur in the Asian oceans.
> And we will have uch the same weather only it will be a lot colder.

W, I don't suppose you'd like to return to this now and explain why
"this spell" has produced some of the best and warmest weather of the
year, in the UK, instead of; "(m)uch the same weather only it will be
a lot colder"??
Weatherlawyer - 23 Jul 2008 20:45 GMT
On July 23, 6:22 pm, shitforbrains@hotmail.com> wrote:

> > 18th to 25th July: 07:59. This spell is an 8 o'clock
>
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> year, in the UK, instead of; "much the same weather only it will be
> a lot colder"??

I already have in another thread, you oaf.

Now   off while I talk to those that have more than your full
complement of brayne sells and that want to know where their future
lies. That is, anyone who wants to learn.

You prefer ignorance and being nice to you isn't worth the effort.
Go away.

Bernoulli showed how fluid flow varies according to its constraints:

http://home.earthlink.net/~mmc1919/venturi.html

He knew too that as the speeds and other contrivances changed, the
ratios changed with it and that the system breaks down at an unknown
variable rate of knots. But that it would break down at some point.

Dirac gave an axiom on the way waves behave as:
Observed quantity 1 x wave 1 + observed quantity 2 x wave 2 + ...
observed quantity n x wave n + etc.

When this breaks down you get an instability that either shows up as
disastrous behaviour -metal fatigue, or some such dynamic.

Or the cause and effect is rerouted, as in this spell's case, the
planet's fluid dynamic.

(I believe Dirac was postulating atomic behaviour. I don't remember.
Look it up if you are not kidding yourself you are interested. I had
to.)

It isn't the observed wave that is the cause, therefore the observed
wave is not determinative.

The <u>cause</u> of the waves in the first place is the "element" that
chooses where to dispose of any excess forces in the continuum.

Once you get to that "magic breakdown" situation, all normality ceases
and things like weather forecasts have to be massaged by the
meteorologists' superior knowledge.

I'd call it weather lore but forecast issuers baulk at that term,
preferring a denial of facts along with the skipping of data.

What you have is called criticality in nuclear physics. Short
circuiting in lesser (electronic) sciences.

Call it what the screaming hell you like in geo-science. I have
already given the reason, the answer and the forecasts necessary for
dealing with it all.

Dealing with only one fluid in a field that holds two and more, is a
recipe for disaster.

And that is what we are enjoying at present.

Or not, as the case may be.

["It isn't the observed wave that is the cause, therefore the observed
wave is not determinative.

The cause of the waves in the first place is the "element" that
chooses where to dispose of any excess forces in the continuum."

We know how far the atmosphere can be pushed in a demonstration of
this breaking down of the system. Wind follows strict guidelines all
over the globe and for all we know on all the planets, the sun
included.

It obeys the regime described in Beaufort's scale and follows much the
same trend right up to Force 5 tornadoes and Category 5 hurricanes.
After that the other natural disasters intrude on the metre.

It is the same with earthquakes. we have a host of 5.5's and then
almost on the same sliding scale Mag 6's then when we get into the 7's
and more, other things go astray in the planetary system.

How many threads contemplating unusual behaviour have we seen in this -
these, groups where this sort of display is present?

All of them call up such responses, I think. This is a given in
UK.sci.weather. Anyone who hasn't noticed is as big a fool as Dawlish.]
Dawlish - 23 Jul 2008 21:47 GMT
> On July 23, 6:22 pm, shitforbra...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
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>
> - Show quoted text -

Looks like 1 out of 6, 17% (OK, I'm generous with the rounding) since
24th April, W. You appear not to be able to translate your theories
into predictions. Thus, your theories apppear to be of little worth.

Predict us something; anything, on the basis of your mantle/atmosphere
fluid mechanics. Then let people judge what you have predicted. So far
you make obtuse references, which are difficult for anyone to
interpret, never mind monitor. The few things that are intelligible
and decipherable as predictions, show that you appear not to be able
to use your theories to predict anything.

Your constant stream of insults and abuse are water off......(complete
the phrase in words of one syllable - it's easy, go on!). It's a
typical reaction to not getting your own way.
Weatherlawyer - 23 Jul 2008 22:26 GMT
On July 23, 9:47 pm, Owlish <jg...@mailshot> wrote:

> Your constant stream of insults and abuse are water off......(complete

I am replying to this only because your ineptitude knows no depth. And
it made me laugh. Critically, so to speak.

Ah well, one can but try.

What would really upset me is that not knowing what sort of genetic
defect you have allows me to respond to you as though you might be
normal despite all evidence that you are not.

And then one day finding that you are indeed damaged. Shouldn't I be
feeling remorse now rather than then.

But it wasn't me that dropped you and picked up the afterbirth by
mistake. I know I am going to regret having this much fun at the
expense of the defenceless. But it is such fun.

So I apologise in advance. Tit!

Sorry.

Or not, as the case may be.
Dawlish - 23 Jul 2008 22:58 GMT
> On July 23, 9:47 pm, Owlish <jg...@mailshot> wrote:
>
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>
> Or not, as the case may be.

No worries: apology accepted. 1 out of 6; 17% and a very peed off W.
Predict us an eathquake. Date, location, time.

That's all I ask.
 
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