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Chris - 08 Mar 2008 12:55 GMT
I looked up tokomaks today. Our reactor is a tokomak that uses alternating
current. These are not discussed in the literature I have seen so far.

I have looked them up before.

A simple coil used to contain plasma is a linear Tokomak the Toriodal form
is the Toriodal tokomak.

The currents and potentials inside are higher in ac machines than in dc
machines because of focussing.

AC tokomaks also make sustained fusion possible.
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Y.y.Porat - 09 Mar 2008 17:28 GMT
> I looked up tokomaks today. Our reactor is a tokomak that uses alternating
> current. These are not discussed in the literature I have seen so far.
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Chris - 10 Mar 2008 20:50 GMT
True: you have dreams too and they might come true.

I will probably die before the fusion engine is re-invented. Tesla
discovered it but the petrol shareholders destroyed his brain and his
freinds were murdered to destroy knowlege of the unit. This was one of the
causes of the second world war. Hitler had "Tesla Power" and fusion bombs
but a surprise attack by british agents in four hours of carnage destroyed
Hitler's dream of a better life for his countrymen and the world was plunged
into war. Hitler took his revenge to a damaged brain and disfigured face by
destroying the British empire and very nearly destroyed Britain. Some people
still wish Hitler had won and destroyed the British Monarchy and aristocracy
for ever. But he lost and Mum was one of the last victims of the British
offensive as her brain was severely damaged by wires in the head to destroy
her.

She thought Hitler was a nice guy who wanted the best for every one as did
Himler. The Jews got in the way, the Jews want everyone else as their slaves
and want to rule the world with the slave system of capitalism. So Hitler
gassed them and tried to kill all the English aristocracy, nobility and
royalty as did the Communists, but they lost and the once again the Royals
won.

When you find how evil and devious the royals are you find out why they are
hated. For example the saxon hirelings who built the Norman castles were
never paid (after false promises of wealth) they were all mercilessly
murdered instead.

Similarly soldiers in the British army are often put down after surviving
battle if they know too much. That is what happened after the second world
war, British soldiers who took part in battles were lobotomised to make them
keep quiet. This is still happening to soldiers returning from Iraq and
Afghanistan, I have been told. It is counted as psychiatric treatment of
battlefield soldiers. All they are doing is removing eye witnesses of the
British atrocities so only the Royal Historian gets a word in.

In Britain people who start businesses are violently attacked unless they
are royals, aristocrats or nobles, it is an insurrection if anyone else
starts one. Saying there is "life in space" is treason too and if you can
prove it then that invokes the death sentence.

What you see on TV is not what is happening, and that is true of all TV and
the web and usenet news is also heavily censored.

I have had quite a lot of my posts removed and treated in a secure unit for
speaking out. They threaten me with further injections and are looking for
an excuse to remove my brain, like mum, to silence me.

At present Royalists have been fabricating evidence to put against me (to
preserve their incomes) so far forensic research has cleared me.

They even put some kind of virus or something on me pc to send out nasty
e-mails.

The Christians don't like me either because I said there was "life in space"
which according to their psychotic logic is a terrible heresy.

I suggest (respectfully) that the powers stop lying and do their homework
with a science and astrophysics degree (to include astrochemistry and
astrobiology).

There is even a youngish lady who I don't know and have not met before who
is threatening to make false accusations against me because of my "terrible
heresy". If she does I could be severely mauled even killed.

Christians are not nice people. Royals and Barons and aristocrats are not
nice people.

I believe Tesla Power worked and I have seen an independantly discovered
fusion reactor working at RSRS.

He used a tube of low pressure hydrogen in one of his Tesla coils.

My low energy devices do not have the clout to initiate ionisation let alone
fusion.

I am going to suspend my experiments for a quite a while to recover from my
considerable debts.

I challenge others to make one themselves (to make money). See my web page
on http://www.chrisspages.co.uk and http://www.chrisscrazyideas.co.uk/

and follow the links to fusion.
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> AC tokomaks also make sustained fusion possible.
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Y.y.Porat - 11 Mar 2008 10:15 GMT
> True: you have dreams too and they might come true.
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i dont know about Tesla and fusion
one thing is sure for me

Tokamak will bot do anything useful
in   spighte huge investments

2
obviously there is not enough effort
to advance fusion

probably too many private interests against it
(or else one  cannot explain the huge  irresponsible negligence
involved in it )

Y.Porat
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Chris - 12 Mar 2008 22:20 GMT
The reason for their falure is that Tokomaks use direct current to attempt
the containmernt of plasma which gives an instablity. The notion they use is
that ions do not move across the tubes of force, this is true but when the
ions move down the tubes of force (they are stimulated to move by the
poloidal transformer pulse) they wiggle around and the pinch effect of the
circulating current is only kept up for a short time and the wiggling ions
are just not held long enough to do make power, nor do they couple with the
coils to transfer the power to the electrical circuit so the DC tokomaks
were going to raise steam to drive turbines powered by the heat of the
reaction.

An AC tokomak uses the pressure of the transformer of the coil around the
toroid to compress and contain the plasma which they generate and heat also.

The fusion reactions occur as pulses during the compression cycle and the
heat of the reaction drives the pressure outwards and this couples with the
magnetic field and increases the current in the coil by driving out the
magnetic flux thus sustaining the oscillations of the tuned circuit which
the coil forms a part of.

The AC tokomak has no poloidal winding and so there is no pulse of current
and no pinch effect.

The AC tokomak is a quiet stable thermonuclear reactor.

The only thing it needs for stability is a regulator to prevent overvoltage
that would otherwise lead to breakdown of the containment and possible
expplosion. The breakdown results in a powerful neutron and gamma flux and a
lot of heat is released.

The Powers know about this but don't use it because there is no money for
them in the reactor as the fuel is hydrogen from electrolysed water.

As you rightly say the vested interests are blocking the development of the
tokomak and succesful reactors are kept secret and the inventors and
developers silenced.

As Tesla was.

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i dont know about Tesla and fusion
one thing is sure for me

Tokamak will bot do anything useful
in   spighte huge investments

2
obviously there is not enough effort
to advance fusion

probably too many private interests against it
(or else one  cannot explain the huge  irresponsible negligence
involved in it )

Y.Porat
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Y.y.Porat - 13 Mar 2008 08:31 GMT
> The reason for their falure is that Tokomaks use direct current to attempt
> the containmernt of plasma which gives an instablity. The notion they use is
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> Y.Porat
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the failure of the Tokamak and like
is not by this or that detail
nore by direct of AC current
it is much deaper!!
it is dead by arival by its basic concept!
imho
effective fusion cannot be acieved by (blind) cpompression

D and T has a very specific geometric structre
and tha tknowlwdge must be taken in acount
in fusion  desighn
iow
we cannot afford the luxery of sun conditions
it is too expensive
we must be more efficient and more
knwlagable than the sun about detailes
and some of us are !!... but not used ..
may be some private economic interests ??!!!
peopel now are waiting untill it wil be too late .....

ATB
Y.Porat
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Chris - 11 Mar 2008 03:14 GMT
>I looked up tokomaks today. Our reactor is a tokomak that uses alternating
>current. These are not discussed in the literature I have seen so far.
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> AC tokomaks also make sustained fusion possible.

Tokamak reactors were a hot topic 25 years ago.  Breakeven was not possible
them and researchers lost interest in them.  Theoretically they make
sustainable fusion possible, but reality is a different matter.  The best
(economic) application for Tokamaks was to be used as fuel producer for more
conventional reactors, like CANDUs.  Once they were no longer attractive, so
wasn't the Tokamak design.

a different Chris <g>

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