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Natural Science Forum / Physics / Fusion / February 2009Fwd: Planets Gather on May 5 and May 17, 2000
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: tonylance@myinternetuk.com Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:06:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Fwd: Planets Gather on May 5 and May 17, 2000 To: Hi Saul, I was just doing a 10 year retrospective of astronomical postings, when I came across this one. It is a forgotten prelude to my Outlandish Astronomical Tables of All Planets and Pluto. http://www.groupsrv.com/science/post-2782569.html You will remember that I said it was a real-time scientific investigation for the duration of the thread, which was 42 days long. Then I posted a copy of my Outlandish Particle Periodic Table Update VIII. (Ed.) http://groups.google.co.uk/group/swnet.sci.astro/browse_thread/thread/743abec972 ec32ce?hl=en# This was a part-time scientific investigation that took 42 years and is ongoing. It makes you think. Thank you, Tony Lance tonylance@myinternetuk.com ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Saul Levy wrote: > Is there a point to this old post, tony? lmao! > Of course NOTHING HAPPENED! > Saul Levy > On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 09:52:15 -0700 (PDT), tonylance@myinternetuk.com > wrote: > > 01 May 2000 17:01:00 > >sci.astro > >From: baa...@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov > >Subject: Planets Gather on May 5 and May 17, 2000 > >To: sci.astro > >Forwarded from John Mosley (jmos...@earthlink.net) Big Bertha Thing Christmas The Twelve Days of Christmas (see below) From a Charles Dickens Birthday Book The Langham Birthday Books Leopold B Hill, Langham Place, W. London. Compiled by B.W.Matz Printed in Great Britain by The Woodbridge Press Ltd., Guildford. Purchased for Christmas in 1921 Merry Christmas and a Blessed New Year to Mods and CP Conf. (C) Copyright Tony Lance 1997 To comply with my copyright please distribute complete and free of charge. The Twelve Days of Christmas December 18th May the green holly-tree flourish, striking its roots deep into our English ground, and having its germinating qualities carried by the birds of Heaven all over the world! The Holly Tree December 19th Seasonable tokens are about.... Lavish profusion in the shops; particularly in the articles of currants, raisins, spices, candied peel, and miost sugar. Edwin Drood December 20th Christmas was close at hand, in all his bluff and hearty honesty; it was the season of hospitality, merriment, and open heartedness. The Pickwick Papers December 21st And numerous indeed are the hearts to which Christmas brings a brief season of happiness and enjoyment.... How many old recollections, and how many dormant sympathies, does Christmas time awaken. The Pickwick Papers December 22nd It is good to be children sometimes, and never better than at Christmas, when its mighty Founder was a child Himself. A Christmas Carol December 23rd Christmas time! That man must be a misanthrope indeed in whose breast something like a jovial feeling is not roused-, in whose mind some pleasant associations are not awakened- by the reccurence of Christmas. Sketches by Boz December 24th I will honour Christmas in my heart, and try to keep it all the year. I will live in the Past, the Present and the Future. The Spirits of all Three shall strive within me. I will not shut out the lessons that they teach. A Christmas Carol December 25th A Christmas family party! We know nothing in nature more delightful! There seems a magic in the very name of Christmas.... Would that Christmas lasted the whole year through! Sketches by Boz December 26th Let the benignant figure of my childhood stand unchanged! In every cheerful image and suggestion that the season brings, may the bright star that rested above the poor roof, be the star of all the Christian world. A Christmas Tree December 27th Another Christmas come, another year gone!... More figures in the lengthening sum of recollection that we work and work at to our torment, till death idly jumbles all together, and rules all out. The Haunted Man December 28th The windows of the house of Memory and the windows of the house of Mercy are not so easily closed as windows of glass and wood. They fly open unexpectedly; they rattle in the night. Somebody's Luggage December 29th Who seeks to turn him (Time) back, or stay him on his course, arrests a mighty engine, which will strike the meddler dead, and be the fiercer and the wilder, ever, for its momentary check! The Chimes The four computer Star Globes:- I Mysky Interactive Planetarium and solar system BC www.fourmilab.ch (Julian days) II Encyclopedia of Space and the Universe PC CD-ROM (Duration of event) by Dorling Kindersley 2007 (Free from Dail Mail) III http://www.heavens-above.com/planets.aspx?lat=34.052&lng=-118.243&loc=Los+Angele s&alt=0&tz=PST (solar system view of event AD) IV Free Download Stellarium Home Planetarium http://www.stellarium.org/ (39MB EXE file) Beta Test version without liability, sometimes needs three exits:- i Software - Quit ii Computer - CTRL ALT DEL (Hold two down and press the other.) iii Electricity - Switch off at wall. (Been there, done that, used all three! Dec. 2008) Stellarium Beta Test Version personal crib sheet (Update I) Year change - use copy and paste. (CTRL C, CTRL V) Month and Day change - use configuration, save options and quit. <F2> Fourth exit - enable Task Manager, in Windows XP. Use Window, instead of full screen. <F11> 2450 BC has to use -2449. Two sites used in Outlandish Astronomical Tables <F6> (Beijing, China and London, United Kingdom) Picture Album of 23 All Planet Events and Pluto. (See two link below) Quit after every event. http://pub42.bravenet.com/photocenter/album.php?usernum=3568676605 (stills and cribsheet) http://uk.youtube.com/user/joehorace (the movie) ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ tonyla...@myinternetuk.com wrote: > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: tonylance@myinternetuk.com [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Hi Saul, Hi there, Taking the 2065 AD event as my staring point, I went looking for a Ring Cycle of Uranus and and found the one below. It gives all the planets and Pluto, with the exception of Uranus, which is darkside of Earth. (2065 AD see NB I) 12:45 on November 22, 2065 The three computer Star Globes:- I Mysky Interactive Planetarium and solar system BC www.fourmilab.ch (Julian days) II Encyclopedia of Space and the Universe PC CD-ROM (Duration of event) by Dorling Kindersley 2007 (Free from Dail Mail) III http://www.heavens-above.com/planets.aspx?lat=34.052&lng=-118.243&loc=Los+Angele s&alt=0&tz=PST (solar system view of event AD) Viewed from London looking south. (Daylight events) All Planets and Pluto. Move forward a day at a time, with occassional one hour reductions for view. At 13:27 on 11th January 2517 AD Until 10:15 on 9th March 2517 AD At 14:44 on 30th December 2518 AD Until 8:18 on 7th May 2519 AD At 12:59 on 1st February 2521 AD Until 9:18 on 6th May 2521 AD At 12:01 on 21st February 2020 AD Until 11:00 on 1st April 2020 AD At 13:22 on 7th February 2022 AD Until 7:58 on 22nd May 2022 AD At 12:49 on 17th February 1522 AD Until 9:19 on 16th April 1522 AD .. At 14:07 on 7th December 52 AD Until 8:29 on 7th March 53 AD At 11:45 on 30th October 23 BC (-22) Until 8:19 on 13th January 22 BC At 13:19 on 20th October 523 BC (-522) Until 9:56 on 13th December 523 BC .. At 15:49 on 15th July 2490 BC (-2489) Until 10:46 on 15th October 2490 BC .. At 15:02 on 21st July 2492 BC (-2491) Until 9:01 on 31st October 2492 BC Ring Cycles of Uranus Viewed from London looking south. (Daylight events) All Planets and Pluto, bar Uranus. The perspective from Uranus, darkside of Earth, still shows all planets and Earth events. Move forward a day at a time, with occassional one hour reductions for view. At 16:01 on 22nd February 2559 AD Until 12:21 on 16th May 2559 AD At 1545 on 21st February 2557 AD Until 11:16 on 30th May 2557 AD At 14:41 on 5th March 2555 AD Until 9:56 on 7th June 2555 AD .. At 15:39 on 28th November 2516 AD Until 13:30 on 10th January 2517 AD .. At 14:26 on 21st December 2518 AD Until 14:43 on 29th december 2518 AD .. At 12:48 on 18th January 2521 AD Until 12:59 on 31st January 2521 AD At 17:01 on 20th January 2060 AD Until 8:04 on 17th July 2060 AD At 15:52 on 1st February 2058 AD Until 10:43 on 5th June 2058 AD At 12:42 on 16th March 2056 AD Until 8:06 on 1st June 2056 AD .. At 13:06 on 26th December 2019 AD Until 12:02 on 20th February 2020 AD .. At 14:19 on 11th December 2021 AD Until 13:24 on 6th February 2022 AD At 14:46 on 27th February 1562 AD Until 9:53 on 9th June 1562 AD At 13:00 on 25th February 1560 AD Until 8:43 on 24th June 1560 AD At 15:13 on 12th January 1558 AD Until 8:24 on 20th May 1558 AD .. At 14:33 on 5th November 1519 AD Until 8:29 on 22nd February 1520 AD .. At 12:57 on 4th December 1521 AD Until 12:52 on 16th February 1522 AD .. At 14:50 on 10th November 1523 AD Until 9:41 on 14th April 1524 AD .. At 15:12 on 28th December 1525 AD Until 10:56 on 30th March 1526 AD At 14:00 on 4th April 1063 AD Until 10:51 on 27th May 1063 AD At 13:38 on 6th March 1061 AD Until 8:03 on 2nd July 1061 AD .. At 14:23 on 3rd November 1013 AD Until 9:10 on 19th February 1014 AD .. At 12:45 on 26th October 1011 AD Until 8:42 on 3rd February 1012 AD .. At 15:07 on 14th September 1009 AD Until 8:18 on 17th January 1010 AD .. At 12:31 on 20th October 1007 AD Until 10:10 on 28th November 1007 AD At 12:51 on 30th March 555 AD Until 9:31 on 6th June 555 AD At 12:08 on 3rd February 553 AD Until 9:42 on 31st May 553 AD At 14:26 on 15th December 551 AD Until 10:22 on 19th May 552 AD At 13:25 on 27th December 549 AD Until 9:19 on 8th May 550 AD .. At 14:59 on 29th October 515 AD Until 9:16 on on 20th March 516 AD .. At 15:57 on 25th August 513 AD Until 11:02 on 27th January 514 AD .. At 14:11 on 17th September 511 AD Until 8:55 on 6th February 511 AD .. At 13:04 on 28th September 509 AD Until 9:37 on 9th December 509 AD At 15:47 on 13th February 57 AD Until 9:04 14th June 57 AD At 15:45 on 9th December 54 AD Until 11:02 on 12th May 55 AD At 8:30 on 7th March 53 AD Until 9:41 on 29th May 53 AD At 12:40 on 25th December 50 AD Until 6:45 on 10th May 51 AD .. At 14:49 on 28th September 16 AD Until 9:16 on 23rd March 17 AD .. At 14:58 on 25th August 14 AD Until 10:10 on 27th February 15 AD .. At 15:50 on 15th August 13 AD Until 13:05 on 7th December 13 AD .. At 15:54 on 5th August 11 AD Until 12:37 on 24th October 11 AD At 14:05 on 19th July 23 BC (-22) Until 11:43 on 30th October 23 BC At 13:34 on 27th June 25 BC (-24) Until 10:33 on 3rd November 25 BC At 12:39 on 28th June 27 BC (-26) Until 8:11 on 23rd November 27 BC At 10:52 on 30th July 29 BC (-28) Until 8:07 on 15th September 29 BC .. At 13:27 on 24th October 483 BC (-482) Until 8:16 on 1st April 482 BC .. At 16:00 on 14th August 485 BC (-484) Until 9:04 on 14th March 484 BC .. At 15:59 on 4th August 487 BC (-486) Until 11:10 on 15th December 486 BC .. At 13:45 on 3rd September 489 BC (-488) Until 8:36 on 2nd December 489 BC At 9:54 on 14th December 523 BC (-522) Until 8:24 on 5th January 522 BC At 15:51 on 10th May 525 BC (-524) Until 8:23 on 22nd November 525 BC At 14:45 on 23rd May 527 BC (-526) Until 9:19 on 30th August 527 BC .. At 12:35 on 22nd December 980 BC (-979) Until 9:13 on 7th March 979 BC .. At 14:19 on 16th November 981 BC (-980) Until 13:07 on 3rd January 980 BC .. At 15:18 on 27th September 983 BC (-982) Until 11:38 on 22nd January 982 BC .. At 13:13 on 1st October 985 BC (-984) Until 10:56 on 22nd December 984 BC At 15:35 on 26th April 1033 BC (-1032) Until 9:12 on 30th August 1033 BC .. At 14:55 on 21st November 1480 (-1479) Until 12:33 on 29th December 1480 BC .. At 14:24 on 31st October 1482 (-1481) Until 9:40 on 7th February 1481 BC At 15:48 on 26th June 1529 BC (-1528) Until 10:39 on 16th October 1529 BC At 14:56 on 8th May 1531 BC (-1530) Until 9:43 on 2nd October 1531 BC At 13:06 on 2nd June 1533 BC (-1532) Until 9:23 on 7th September 1533 BC At 14:38 on 6th May 1535 BC (-1534) Until 8:00 on 31st August 1535 BC .. At 15:27 on 19th August 1990 BC (-1989) Until 10:24 on 29th December 1990 BC .. At 13:17 on 22nd August 1992 BC (-1991) Until 8:25 on 24th January 1991 BC .. At 13:53 on 8th August 1994 BC (-1993) Until 8:53 on 2nd January 1993 BC At 14:37 on 16th May 2029 BC (-2028) Until 10:21 on 6th October 2029 BC At 15:50 on 23rd April 2031 BC (-2030) Until 11:04 on 16th September 2031 BC At 14:50 on 4th May 2033 BC (-2032) Until 9:16 on 5th September 2033 BC .. At 15:31 on 20th August 2488 Bc (-2487) Until 8:53 on 13th January 2487 BC .. At 10:48 on 16th October 2490 BC (-2489) Until 11:45 on 27th November 2490 BC .. At 9:00 on 1st November 2492 BC (-2491) Until 10:11 on 15th December 2492 BC At 12:46 on 21st July 2526 BC (-2525) Until 8:12 on 29th October 2526 BC At 14:59 on 9th May 2528 BC (-2527) Until 9:08 on 9th October 2528 BC At 15:47 on 24th April 2530 BC (-2529) Until 10:29 on 15th September 2530 BC NB I 15 May 2000 23:27:00 sci.astro From: baalke@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov Subject: Venus And Jupiter Will Pass 42 Arcseconds Aparts On May 17 To: sci.astro (Newsgroups: sci.astro,alt.sci.planetary,alt.astronomy) ++++++++++++++++++++++++++ tonyla...@myinternetuk.com wrote: > Big Bertha Thing Christmas > > The Twelve Days of Christmas (see below) > > From a Charles Dickens Birthday Book ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: tonylance@myinternetuk.com Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 10:11:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Planets Gather on May 5 and May 17, 2000 To: swnet.sci.astro,alt.sci.planetary Hi Marcus, 15,000 flying bombs landed on London in 1945, World War II. (V1 and V2) 15,000 flying bombs then landed on Antwerp in 1945. 15,000 postings, cross posted to sci.chem and three other newsgroups, had the subject line Jeehad needs scientists. The blow by blow of what happened, when I pointed Big Bertha Thing and pulled the trigger, is contained on swnet.sci.astro, instead of sci.chem I have been the primary user of swnet.sci.astro since 1998. Would you honestly want me somewhere else? Everyone should have a home. Thank you, Tony Lance tonylance@myinternetuk.com Marcus Str?mberg wrote: > > I am not interested in liitle bugs, just the gross misconduct sort. > > Vice-presidents heads should roll. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > m9370@abc.se +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ tonyla...@myinternetuk.com wrote: > Hi there, > Taking the 2065 AD event as my staring point, I went looking for a > Ring Cycle of Uranus and > and found the one below. From: Tony Lance <judemarie@bigberthathing.co.uk> Newsgroups: swnet.sci.astro,sci.space.policy Subject: Big Bertha Thing redoubt Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2007 18:28:32 +0100 Big Bertha Thing memoriam Tony died raising his best friends family, His wife needed two helpers, his poor heart and him. Carer, postman, welder and domino player. RAF aircraft fitter at Battle of Britain and El Alamain. Outboxed a voortrecker at middleweight. Raised trade union branch president and National officer of voluntary .org Taught me to keep the faith, Mend my bicycle and trigonometry. His story is ended, but not yet finished. NB (2008) 'The Air Force have been magnificent all through. We should never have got through the wadis except for their help. They laid what Tedder calls a carpet for us; all day, over and over again they came down to ground level ahead of us, shooting up everything they saw resisting the advance, and bombing all the anti-tank positions. It was magnificent, but it was very costly to them because the Germans have plenty of light flak. Over and over again in the last few days we have found crashed Hurricanes and Kittihawks in our advance, scores of them, some with the body of the pilot still in the seat. The Germans are resisting desperately; if we get through to Tunis it will be because of what these Air Force boys are doing to prepare the ground ahead of us and their self-sacrifice.' Quote from fictional letter by Brigadier Carter-Hayes, who had just died in Tunisia, about El Alamain. From the book Pastoral by Nevil Shute Published by Heinemann in 1944 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ tonyla...@myinternetuk.com wrote: > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: tonylance@myinternetuk.com [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Hi Marcus, What is this carp and why is it on an anthro group???? > From: Tony Lance <judemarie@bigberthathing.co.uk> > Newsgroups: swnet.sci.astro,sci.space.policy [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > > > > Hi Marcus, > What is this carp and why is it on an anthro group???? He has showed up on the group from time to time for years with stuff re "Big Bertha" which sounded like some kind of game....but maybe not. Apparently he is no more. My condolences to those for whom his stuff was relevant and sensible. Rick Wagler Hi Rich and Rick, I did not choose your newsgroup. The guys on your newsgroup chose your newsgroup. For most wanted list, which contains paleo, see tactics below. The Israeli Arab guy with tenure is a continuation posting for this thread. Thank you, Tony Lance tonylance@myinternetuk.com From: Tony Lance <judemarie@bigberthathing.co.uk> Newsgroups: swnet.sci.astro,sci.space.policy Subject: Re: Big Bertha Thing electron Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 15:35:10 +0100 Big Bertha Thing tactics To whom it may concern. (Newsgroup: sci.chem) To defend against a denial of service attack on a newsgroup, use the same tactics that Big Bertha Thing uses on the most wanted list guys. 1. All threads are one posting long. 2. All replies are posted to one thread. 3. No postings of most wanted are read. 4. No replies to most wanted. 5. No direct criticism of most wanted. 6. All criticism should be pictorial, literate, allegorical anecdotal and out of copyright. 7. It is a defense in English law that something which is not libelous in one context, cannot be read in another context as libelous. 8. This is also true of English universities, where the guy has tenure. 9. Corporate branding can reinforce trust, as well as irritation. 10. A group of guys posting across several newsgroups, can have strategic reasons for their choice of newsgroups. 11. Three battles have been won so far. (39 family jewels) 12. The fourth battle is now on. (Asian Rim) 13. So I posted a picture of historical scientific interest, which looked like a shell hole. (Virtual artillary shell) 14. Use double pass newsreader software to download headers, before the rest of the postings. (NNTP) http://www.tonylance.talktalk.net/want04.html From: Tony Lance <judemarie@bigberthathing.co.uk> Newsgroups: swnet.sci.astro,sci.space.policy Subject: Re: Big Bertha Thing pin-wheel Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 17:19:41 +0100 Big Bertha Thing uniform Cosmic Ray Series Possible Real World System Constructs. http://www.tonylance.talktalk.net/uniform.html Access page to 714K ZIP file Astrophysics net ring Access site Newsgroup Reviews including alt.support.attn-deficit Animated wire-frame Polyhedron display, complete with duals and double precision angles to the polygons. Also technical program description and 75 pictures. Just one thing, thats still outstanding. This is a collection of PostScript files from the Computing Science Technical Report series of organization 1127 of AT&T Bell Laboratories report Comp. Sci. Tech. Rep. No. 130 author Andrew Hume title Exact Descriptions of Regular and Semi-Regular Polyhedra and Their Duals date November 1986 tm TM 11276-861022-09 type techreport Just two programs ready to run. 1. kaleido.exe (MSDOS) 86KB (see Zip) 2. schwarz.exe (MSDOS) 27KB (see Zip) Just one description of two programs, that do just one thing, better than the next best thing. uniform.pdf (Adobe) 676KB (see Zip) NB (2008) A computer program, called kaleido (cf. [Ha]) and publicly available at ftp@ftp.math.technion.ac.il, has been developed to compute the data of a uniform polyhedron (and its dual)... Kaleido is also capable of computing the vertex and face coordinates and displaying a rotating wire-frame image of each polyhedron. Two quotes from following attribution:- Uniform Solution for Uniform Polyhedra* Zvi Har’El Department of Mathematics Technion - Israel Institute of Technology Haifa 32000, Israel E-Mail: rl@math.technion.ac.il * In memoriam of my father, Gershon Har’El, who introduced me to spatial structures. Geometriae Dedicata 47: 57-110, 1993. From: Tony Lance <judemarie@bigberthathing.co.uk> Newsgroups: swnet.sci.astro,sci.space.policy Subject: Re: Big Bertha Thing Extract Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 15:16:54 +0100 Big Bertha Thing francis To my brother-in-law Francis (RIP), who I once called "as daft as a brush." To his everlasting credit, he replied "I know." The greatest compliment, my wife ever paid me, was to say, that I did not hold a grudge. Net surfers do not hold grudges, but they are a bit short on victim support, whichever side the victim comes from. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: RichTravsky Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 13:16:18 -0700 Subject: Re: Fwd: Planets Gather on May 5 and May 17, 2000 To: What is this carp and why is it on an anthro group???? tonylance@myinternetuk.com wrote: > From: Tony Lance <judemarie@bigberthathing.co.uk> > Newsgroups: swnet.sci.astro,sci.space.policy > Subject: Big Bertha Thing redoubt > Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2007 18:28:32 +0100 > > Big Bertha Thing memoriam > Hi Rich and Rick, > I did not choose your newsgroup. > The guys on your newsgroup chose your newsgroup. Nope. You did. So now you're a liar. http://groups.google.com/group/sci.anthropology.paleo/msg/4a1aaf0c44be40f0?dmode =source [...] From: tonyla...@myinternetuk.com Newsgroups: sci.anthropology.paleo,sci.physics.fusion Subject: Fwd: Planets Gather on May 5 and May 17, 2000 Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 09:41:20 -0800 (PST) Organization: http://groups.google.com [...] ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: tonyla...@myinternetuk.com Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:06:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Fwd: Planets Gather on May 5 and May 17, 2000 To: Hi Saul, [crap deleted] Hi Rich, I do not have a problem with that, see Warlord below. How come you do not address me by name? Pluto is a continuation posting in this thread. Thank you, Tony Lance mickalice@googlemail.com From: Tony Lance <judemarie@bigberthathing.co.uk> Newsgroups: swnet.sci.astro,sci.space.policy Subject: Re: Big Bertha Thing redoubt Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 18:37:41 +0100 Big Bertha Thing warlord The last time I heard that an apology given under duress was valid, was in the Monty Python' comedy sketch on the Spanish Inquisition. Everytime anyone said Spanish Inquisition, then 3 red cardinals turned up to organise it. What do I have in comon with a Texas cattle baron? He thinks that he is a bigger liar than I am. I think I am. What does a drill sargeant have in comon with a chinese warlord? He says that the sun will not rise tomorrow. His men believe it. What is the difference between a Texas cattle baron and a chinese warlord? The one knows he is lying. The other has never had the problem. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: tonyla...@myinternetuk.com Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 11:08:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Fwd: Planets Gather on May 5 and May 17, 2000 To: Hi there, I was having a look at the daylight event in 2675 AD, given in the Planets Gather posting. It shows an all planet event, without Pluto, which is darkside of Earth. Checking 496 years earlier, at a time, I went on to find the below table of cycles. This is given the name Ring Cycles of Pluto. The three computer Star Globes:- I Mysky Interactive Planetarium and solar system BC www.fourmilab.ch (Julian days) II Encyclopedia of Space and the Universe PC CD-ROM (Duration of event) by Dorling Kindersley 2007 (Free from Dail Mail) III http://www.heavens-above.com/planets.aspx?lat=34.052&lng=-118.243&loc=Los+Angele s&alt=0&tz=PST (solar system view of event AD) Viewed from London looking south. (Daylight events) All Planets and Pluto. Move forward a day at a time, with occassional one hour reductions for view. At 15:01 on 1st September 1982 AD See I Until 10:44 on 8th January 1983 AD Ring Cycles of Pluto. Viewed from London looking south. (Daylight events) All Planets only. The perspective from Pluto, darkside of Earth, still shows all planets and Earth events. Move forward a day at a time, with occassional one hour reductions for view. At 15:02 on 23rd December 2674 AD see I Until 10:02 on 2nd June 2675 AD At 14:08 on 4th March 2179 AD Until 11:51 on 2nd May 2179 AD At 14:01 on 24th January 1676 AD Until 10:10 on 10th April 1676 AD At 13:04 9th December 1167 AD Until 9:29 on 28th March 1168 AD At 15:43 on 12th November 667 AD Until 9:04 on 18th March 668 AD At 12:48 on 22nd January 230 AD Until 7:31 on 30th April 230 AD At 13:33 on 24th February 266 BC (-265) Until 9:38 on 9th May 266 BC At 15:41 on 30th January 739 BC (-738) Until 9:28 on 22nd August 739 BC At 14:21 on 9th February 741 BC (-740) Three events in six years. Until 9:54 on 16th July 741 BC At 13:08 on 19th February 743 BC (-742) Until 9:28 31st May 743 BC At 14:23 on 28th February 1240 BC (-1239) Until 9:35 on 6th July 1240 BC At 14:01 on 11th February 1748 BC (-1747) Until 9:24 on 2nd May 1748 BC At 12:56 on 2nd February 2271 BC (-2270) Until 8:08 on 13th May 2271 BC At 14:26 on 8th November 2782 BC (-2781) Until 10:51 on 21st February 2782 BC NB I From: baalke@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov (Ron Baalke) Forwarded from John Mosley (jmosley@earthlink.net) Newsgroups: sci.astro,alt.sci.planetary,alt.astronomy,sci.astro.amateur Subject: Planets Gather on May 5 and May 17, 2000 Date: 1 May 2000 16:01 UT tonyla...@myinternetuk.com wrote: > 01 May 2000 17:01:00 > sci.astro [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Saturn) plus the moon gather around the sun on May 5 in a relatively > compact grouping. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Hi Rich and Rick, > > I did not choose your newsgroup. > > The guys on your newsgroup chose your newsgroup. > > Nope. You did. 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