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405nm lasers and blu-ray laser modules

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405nm.com@googlemail.com - 26 Jul 2008 04:10 GMT
here is the motherload
http://shop.ebay.co.uk/merchant/405nm

laser light the sky at night

404nm
daguin - 26 Jul 2008 17:05 GMT
On Jul 25, 8:10 pm, "405nm....@googlemail.com"
<markyor...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> here is the motherloadhttp://shop.ebay.co.uk/merchant/405nm

There are less expensive alternatives if you can operate a soldering
iron.

Peace,
dave
Lasers In Mind - 26 Jul 2008 20:03 GMT
> here is the motherload
> http://shop.ebay.co.uk/merchant/405nm
>
> laser light the sky at night
>
> 404nm

"I'ts hard to decide, is it a purple laser, a blue laser or a bright
yellow laser!!!"

It is VERY easy to decide. It is *NOT* blue! Blue is 473nm.
daguin - 27 Jul 2008 08:32 GMT
> 405nm....@googlemail.com wrote:
> > here is the motherload
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>
> It is VERY easy to decide. It is *NOT* blue! Blue is 473nm.

AMEN!

There's no doubt that the beam from my 405nm lasers is violet.

It is unfortunate that the marketing departments decided to call these
"blu-ray."

I guess that "Near-Ultra-Violet-Ray" just didn't roll off of the
tongue easily ;)

"nuv-ray" ?

Peace,
dave
sam@repairfaq.org - 27 Jul 2008 14:21 GMT
> > 405nm....@googlemail.com wrote:
> > > here is the motherload
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> Peace,
> dave

Not only is it violet, it is so close to UV that it's almost invisible
unless it strikes a surface that fluoresces.

Truly lousy for laser pointer without a cooperating screen! :)

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Jürgen Appel - 28 Jul 2008 08:05 GMT
sam@repairfaq.org schrieb:

>> > It is VERY easy to decide. It is *NOT* blue! Blue is 473nm.
>>
>> AMEN!
>>
>> There's no doubt that the beam from my 405nm lasers is violet.

Maybe it's individual? All I can tell you is that the 397 nm beam from my
last experiment appeared blue and not violet...

> Not only is it violet, it is so close to UV that it's almost invisible
> unless it strikes a surface that fluoresces.

... and that this light was much better visible than a beam of the same
intensity of the fundamenal 795 nm light from which it was generated.

> Truly lousy for laser pointer without a cooperating screen! :)

That is true of course. Even though a few µW of 395 nm appeared clearly
visible in a dark room, in contrast to even a green LED it was rather dim.

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daguin - 28 Jul 2008 14:16 GMT
On Jul 27, 6:25 am, s...@repairfaq.org wrote:

> Not only is it violet, it is so close to UV that it's almost invisible
> unless it strikes a surface that fluoresces.
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Actually, mine is quite lovely.  It is true that this is so close to
the edge of our eye's ability to see that different people perceive it
differently, However, in powers above 100mW, it is visible.  It has
been my experience that older people (like myself) and people with
glasses have more problem seeing it, but most can see it.  The beam
must be greater than 150mW for me to see it.  Also, the "dot" is
amazing as it seems to change color depending on what surface is being
lit.

I use a 10mW unit in lecture.  If the laser hits the wall, it is very
dim.  When the laser hits the screen, it's perceived brightness
increases dramatically.  It is a great attention getter.

Peace,
dave
Fleetie - 28 Jul 2008 18:36 GMT
"daguin" <dguin@verizon.net> wrote
> Actually, mine is quite lovely.  It is true that this is so close to
> the edge of our eye's ability to see that different people perceive it
> differently, However, in powers above 100mW, it is visible.  It has
> been my experience that older people (like myself) and people with
> glasses have more problem seeing it, but most can see it.

Corneal yellowing. As we age, our corneas grow yellow,
which greatly attenuates far blue light.

I have a valve (tube) phono preamp for my turntable,
and the power LED is very bright, and deep blue. In a darkened
room, its light diffusely reflects from various things on a table
between the LED and the listening position. Out of the corner
of my eye, I can clearly see some of the dimmer reflections,
yet looking directly at them, in some cases I don't see the
blue at all, and in other cases, they look much dimmer.
I'm 36. Alarming!

I'm not sure whether the yellowing process is solely caused
by ageing effects, or whether by exposure to UV and far blue
light.

As for whether far blue is perceived as blue or violet, it
will depend largely on the response of the individual's red
receptors at the wavelength in question. If they still respond
significantly, the light will look violet, else just blue.

Martin
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