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ITCZ Creeping Northward over the Past 300 Years

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crunch - 03 Jul 2009 15:16 GMT
Accuweather
http://global-warming.accuweather.com/2009/07/itcz_creeping_northward_over_t.html

David Christainsen - Meteorologist
John M. - 03 Jul 2009 15:21 GMT
> Accuweatherhttp://global-warming.accuweather.com/2009/07/itcz_creeping_northward...
>
> David Christainsen - Meteorologist

So? The climate started changing dramatically about 150 years ago.
This is not news to us on alt. global-warming.
Ken Marino - 03 Jul 2009 17:34 GMT
>> Accuweatherhttp://global-warming.accuweather.com/2009/07/itcz_creeping_northward...
>>
>> David Christainsen - Meteorologist
>
> So? The climate started changing dramatically about 150 years ago. This
> is not news to us on alt. global-warming.

Once again, ther was not much industry or man made products 150 years
ago, so why does man get the blame?
richp - 03 Jul 2009 18:18 GMT
> >> Accuweatherhttp://global-warming.accuweather.com/2009/07/
>
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> Once again, ther was not much industry or man made products 150 years
> ago, so why does man get the blame?

Steam locomotives were the rage in the 1850's
Peter Muehlbauer - 03 Jul 2009 18:35 GMT
> > >> Accuweatherhttp://global-warming.accuweather.com/2009/07/
> >
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> Steam locomotives were the rage in the 1850's

Yes, and there were millions of them, eh?
Idiot.
richp - 03 Jul 2009 23:10 GMT
On Jul 3, 10:35 am, Peter Muehlbauer
<spamtrap...@AT.frankenexpress.de> wrote:
> > > >> Accuweatherhttp://global-warming.accuweather.com/2009/07/
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> - Show quoted text -

Conservatives in a debate tend to do crap like this "Steam locomotives
were the rage in the 1850's

> Yes, and there were millions of them, eh?
> Idiot"

I never said that and why do you want to put words in my mouth.  I
really don't appreciate that you friggin bully
Peter Muehlbauer - 04 Jul 2009 05:53 GMT
> On Jul 3, 10:35 am, Peter Muehlbauer
> <spamtrap...@AT.frankenexpress.de> wrote:
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> I never said that and why do you want to put words in my mouth.  I
> really don't appreciate that you friggin bully

I see, you find an excuse on every sh.t you post, even if it is off topic.
Better you STFU next time before some diarrhea is leaving your mouth.
richp - 09 Jul 2009 21:12 GMT
On Jul 3, 9:53 pm, Peter Muehlbauer <spamtrap...@AT.frankenexpress.de>
wrote:
> > On Jul 3, 10:35 am, Peter Muehlbauer
> > <spamtrap...@AT.frankenexpress.de> wrote:
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Catoni - 03 Jul 2009 18:38 GMT
> > >> Accuweatherhttp://global-warming.accuweather.com/2009/07/
>
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> Steam locomotives were the rage in the 1850's

Yep, it's because of the steam locomotives.  There had to be about two
or three hundred of them in the world back then.

Our fault again.  :-(

Wait !!!!  the article says:

"ITCZ Creeping Northward over the Past 300 Years"

 How many steam locomotives were there 200 and 300 years ago??????
Peter Muehlbauer - 03 Jul 2009 18:34 GMT
> > Accuweatherhttp://global-warming.accuweather.com/2009/07/itcz_creeping_northward...
> >
> > David Christainsen - Meteorologist
>
> So? The climate started changing dramatically about 150 years ago.

Typical AGW small-time thinking.

> This is not news to us on alt. global-warming.

That's no news at all for the sceptics here.
AGWs are only capable to think from lunchtime to goulash.
Ken Marino - 03 Jul 2009 17:32 GMT
> Accuweather
> http://global-warming.accuweather.com/2009/07/itcz_creeping_northward_over_t.html
>
> David Christainsen - Meteorologist

OK. I agree with you and your link. However, how does this relate to man-
made global warming. Don't believe we had very many automobles, a/c
units, cattle (compared to today) or other things being blamed for
today's problems. Seems to me, and to a lot of people in the scientific
community, that we are dealing with natural cycles in the earth's
climate. But as usual, those on the left NEVER look at it that way. It is
always caused by man.
Bill Ward - 03 Jul 2009 18:06 GMT
>> Accuweather
>> http://global-warming.accuweather.com/2009/07/
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> climate. But as usual, those on the left NEVER look at it that way. It
> is always caused by man.

Well of course.

How could they tax nature?
What A. Fool - 03 Jul 2009 21:08 GMT
>Accuweather
>http://global-warming.accuweather.com/2009/07/itcz_creeping_northward_over_t.html
>
>David Christainsen - Meteorologist

       Isn't there two of those, one north and one south?
 
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