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The EPA Silences a Climate Skeptic

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Eric Gisin - 03 Jul 2009 20:09 GMT
How many of the AGW trolls here does the last paragraph apply to??

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124657655235589119.html

The professional penalty for offering a contrary view to elites like Al Gore is a smear campaign.
 a.. By KIMBERLEY A. STRASSEL

Wherever Jim Hansen is right now -- whatever speech the "censored" NASA scientist is giving --
perhaps he'll find time to mention the plight of Alan Carlin. Though don't count on it.
Mr. Hansen, as everyone in this solar system knows, is the director of NASA's Goddard Institute for
Space Studies. Starting in 2004, he launched a campaign against the Bush administration, claiming
it was censoring his global-warming thoughts and fiddling with the science. It was all a bit of a
hoot, given Mr. Hansen was already a world-famous devotee of the theory of man-made global warming,
a reputation earned with some 1,400 speeches he'd given, many while working for Mr. Bush. But it
gave Democrats a fun talking point, one the Obama team later picked up.

[image] Alan Carlin, 35-year Environmental Protection Agency veteran
So much so that one of President Barack Obama's first acts was a memo to agencies demanding new
transparency in government, and science. The nominee to head the Environmental Protection Agency
(EPA), Lisa Jackson, joined in, exclaiming, "As administrator, I will ensure EPA's efforts to
address the environmental crises of today are rooted in three fundamental values: science-based
policies and program, adherence to the rule of law, and overwhelming transparency." In case anyone
missed the point, Mr. Obama took another shot at his predecessors in April, vowing that "the days
of science taking a backseat to ideology are over."

Except, that is, when it comes to Mr. Carlin, a senior analyst in the EPA's National Center for
Environmental Economics and a 35-year veteran of the agency. In March, the Obama EPA prepared to
engage the global-warming debate in an astounding new way, by issuing an "endangerment" finding on
carbon. It establishes that carbon is a pollutant, and thereby gives the EPA the authority to
regulate it -- even if Congress doesn't act.

Around this time, Mr. Carlin and a colleague presented a 98-page analysis arguing the agency should
take another look, as the science behind man-made global warming is inconclusive at best. The
analysis noted that global temperatures were on a downward trend. It pointed out problems with
climate models. It highlighted new research that contradicts apocalyptic scenarios. "We believe our
concerns and reservations are sufficiently important to warrant a serious review of the science by
EPA," the report read.

The response to Mr. Carlin was an email from his boss, Al McGartland, forbidding him from "any
direct communication" with anyone outside of his office with regard to his analysis. When Mr.
Carlin tried again to disseminate his analysis, Mr. McGartland decreed: "The administrator and the
administration have decided to move forward on endangerment, and your comments do not help the
legal or policy case for this decision. . . . I can only see one impact of your comments given
where we are in the process, and that would be a very negative impact on our office." (Emphasis
added.)

Mr. McGartland blasted yet another email: "With the endangerment finding nearly final, you need to
move on to other issues and subjects. I don't want you to spend any additional EPA time on climate
change. No papers, no research etc, at least until we see what EPA is going to do with Climate."
Ideology? Nope, not here. Just us science folk. Honest.

The emails were unearthed by the Competitive Enterprise Institute. Republican officials are calling
for an investigation; House Energy Committee ranking member Joe Barton sent a letter with pointed
questions to Mrs. Jackson, which she's yet to answer. The EPA has issued defensive statements,
claiming Mr. Carlin wasn't ignored. But there is no getting around that the Obama administration
has flouted its own promises of transparency.

The Bush administration's great sin, for the record, was daring to issue reports that laid out the
administration's official position on global warming. That the reports did not contain the most
doomsday predictions led to howls that the Bush politicals were suppressing and ignoring career
scientists.

The Carlin dustup falls into a murkier category. Unlike annual reports, the Obama EPA's
endangerment finding is a policy act. As such, EPA is required to make public those agency
documents that pertain to the decision, to allow for public comment. Court rulings say rulemaking
records must include both "the evidence relied upon and the evidence discarded." In refusing to
allow Mr. Carlin's study to be circulated, the agency essentially hid it from the docket.

Unable to defend the EPA's actions, the climate-change crew -- , led by anonymous EPA officials --
is doing what it does best: trashing Mr. Carlin as a "denier." He is, we are told, "only" an
economist (he in fact holds a degree in physics from CalTech). It wasn't his "job" to look at this
issue (he in fact works in an office tasked with "informing important policy decisions with sound
economics and other sciences.") His study was full of sham science. (The majority of it in fact
references peer-reviewed studies.) Where's Mr. Hansen and his defense of scientific freedom when
you really need him?

Mr. Carlin is instead an explanation for why the science debate is little reported in this country.
The professional penalty for offering a contrary view to elites like Al Gore is a smear campaign.
The global-warming crowd likes to deride skeptics as the equivalent of the Catholic Church refusing
to accept the Copernican theory. The irony is that, today, it is those who dare critique the new
religion of human-induced climate change who face the Inquisition.

Write to kim@wsj.com
PseudoCyAntz - 04 Jul 2009 11:10 GMT
> How many of the AGW trolls here does the last paragraph apply to??
>
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>
> Write to kim@wsj.com

Still posting Op/Eds from the WSJ ignoramus, Kimberley A. Strassel?

Carlin is an Economist, not a climate scientist.
<http://carlineconomics.googlepages.com/>

--------------------------------------------------[

   Real Climate - June 26, 2009
   Bubkes
   Gavin A. Schmidt
<http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2009/06/bubkes/>
   
   Some parts of the blogosphere, headed up by CEI ("CO2: They
   call it pollution, we call it life!"), are all a-twitter over
   an apparently "suppressed" document that supposedly undermines
   the EPA Endangerment finding about human emissions of carbon
   dioxide and a basket of other greenhouse gases. Well a draft
   of this "suppressed" document has been released and we can now
   all read this allegedly devastating critique of the EPA
   science. Let’s take a look...
   
   First off the authors of the submission; Alan Carlin is an
   economist and John Davidson is an ex-member of the Carter
   administration Council of Environmental Quality. Neither are
   climate scientists. That’s not necessarily a problem - perhaps
   they have mastered multiple fields? - but it is likely an
   indication that the analysis is not going to be very technical
   (and so it will prove). Curiously, while the authors work for
   the NCEE (National Center for Environmental Economics), part
   of the EPA, they appear to have rather closely collaborated
   with one Ken Gregory (his inline comments appear at multiple
   points in the draft). Ken Gregory if you don’t know is a
   leading light of the Friends of Science - a astroturf
   anti-climate science lobbying group based in Alberta. Indeed,
   parts of the Carlin and Davidson report appear to be lifted
   directly from Ken’s rambling magnum opus on the FoS site.
   However, despite this odd pedigree, the scientific points
   could still be valid.
   
   Their main points are nicely summarised thus: a) the science
   is so rapidly evolving that IPCC (2007) and CCSP (2009)
   reports are already out of date, b) the globe is cooling!, c)
   the consensus on hurricane/global warming connections has
   moved from uncertain to ambiguous, d) Greenland is not losing
   mass, no sirree..., e) the recession will save us!, f) water
   vapour feedback is negative!, and g) Scafetta and West’s
   statistical fit of temperature to an obsolete solar forcing
   curve means that all other detection and attribution work is
   wrong. From this "evidence", they then claim that all
   variations in climate are internal variability, except for the
   warming trend which is caused by the sun, oh and by the way
   the globe is cooling.
   
   Devastating eh?
   
   One can see a number of basic flaws here; the complete lack of
   appreciation of the importance of natural variability on short
   time scales, the common but erroneous belief that any
   attribution of past climate change to solar or other forcing
   means that CO2 has no radiative effect, and a hopeless lack of
   familiarity of the basic science of detection and attribution.
   
   But it gets worse, what solid peer reviewed science do they
   cite for support? A heavily-criticised blog posting showing
   that there are bi-decadal periods in climate data and that
   this proves it was the sun wot done it. The work of an
   award-winning astrologer (one Theodor Landscheidt, who also
   thought that the rise of Hitler and Stalin were due to cosmic
   cycles), a classic Courtillot paper we’ve discussed before,
   the aforementioned FoS web page, another web page run by Doug
   Hoyt, a paper by Garth Paltridge reporting on artifacts in the
   NCEP reanalysis of water vapour that are in contradiction to
   every other reanalysis, direct observations and satellite
   data, a complete reprint of another un-peer reviewed paper by
   William Gray, a nonsense paper by Miskolczi etc. etc. I’m not
   quite sure how this is supposed to compete with the four
   rounds of international scientific and governmental review of
   the IPCC or the rounds of review of the CCSP reports....
   
   They don’t even notice the contradictions in their own cites.
   For instance, they show a figure that demonstrates that
   galactic cosmic ray and solar trends are non-existent from
   1957 on, and yet cheerfully quote Scafetta and West who claim
   that almost all of the recent trend is solar driven! They
   claim that climate sensitivity is very small while failing to
   realise that this implies that solar variability can’t have
   any effect either. They claim that GCM simulations produced
   trends over the twentieth century of 1.6 to 3.74ºC - which is
   simply (and bizarrely) wrong (though with all due respect,
   that one seems to come directly from Mr. Gregory). Even more
   curious, Carlin appears to be a big fan of geo-engineering,
   but how this squares with his apparent belief that we know
   nothing about what drives climate, is puzzling. A sine qua non
   of geo-engineering is that we need models to be able to
   predict what is likely to happen, and if you think they are
   all wrong, how could you have any faith that you could
   effectively manage a geo-engineering approach?
   
   Finally, they end up with the oddest claim in the submission:
   That because human welfare has increased over the twentieth
   century at a time when CO2 was increasing, this somehow
   implies that no amount of CO2 increases can ever cause a
   danger to human society. This is just boneheadly stupid.
   
   So in summary, what we have is a ragbag collection of un-peer
   reviewed web pages, an unhealthy dose of sunstroke, a dash of
   astrology and more cherries than you can poke a cocktail stick
   at. Seriously, if that’s the best they can do, the EPA’s
   ruling is on pretty safe ground.
   
   If I were the authors, I’d suppress this myself, and then go
   for a long hike on the Appalachian Trail....
   
   
]--------------------------------------------------
Peter Muehlbauer - 04 Jul 2009 14:42 GMT
>     Real Climate - June 26, 2009
>     Bubkes
>     Gavin A. Schmidt
> <http://www.realclimate.org/

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA....

SCNR
Eric Gisin - 04 Jul 2009 15:07 GMT
Yup, the kooksite defence. Note nobody can debunk the OP:

> Unable to defend the EPA's actions, the climate-change crew -- , led
> by anonymous EPA officials -- is doing what it does best: trashing Mr.
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> SCNR
Last Post - 04 Jul 2009 16:21 GMT
> Yup, the kooksite defence. Note nobody can debunk the OP:
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> > fact references peer-reviewed studies.) Where's Mr. Hansen and his
> > defense of scientific freedom when you really need him?

•• FYI: James Hansen is an astronomer with
   no background in climate science.

- -
In real science the burden of proof is always on
the proposer, never on the sceptics. So far
neither IPCC nor anyone else has provided one
iota of valid data for global warming nor have
they provided data that climate change is being
effected by commerce and industry, and not by
natural phenomena.
Last Post - 04 Jul 2009 16:17 GMT
On Jul 4, 6:10 am, PseudoCyAntz <numero...@IntelligenceDecline.us>
wrote:

> > How many of the AGW trolls here does the last paragraph apply to??
>
[quoted text clipped - 106 lines]
>
> Still posting Op/Eds from the WSJ ignoramus, Kimberley A. Strassel?

•• Pseudo Suzie  is an idiotic whore who attacks
   crudely anybody that might disagree with her.
   It might be noted that the Wall Street Journal
   hires only the best.

> Carlin is an Economist, not a climate scientist.
> <http://carlineconomics.googlepages.com/>

•• "Climate scientist" is a very new appellation
   for which there is no degree. However Dr
   Carlin was a physicist before he became an
   economist. His brief was based on peer
   reviewed  articles that could blow the AGW
   alarmists out of the water.
PseudoCyAntz - 07 Jul 2009 08:17 GMT
Last Post <last_post@primus.ca> wrote in news:e647164b-a6d1-451d-928d-
a6f039ff4934@s31g2000yqs.googlegroups.com:

> Pseudo Suzie  is an idiotic whore who attacks
> crudely anybody that might disagree with her.

Now you attack with unsubstantiated gender-based ad hominems?

A sexist pig ontop of being a dim-witted ditto-head?
Who'd of thunk it could be possible?

It seems you're the slattern here;
taking it up the a.s for astroturf spliffs to smoke.

rotflmao at your preponderate inanity...
Last Post - 07 Jul 2009 12:57 GMT
On Jul 7, 3:17 am, PseudoCyAntz <numero...@IntelligenceDecline.us>
wrote:
> Last Post <last_p...@primus.ca> wrote in news:e647164b-a6d1-451d-928d-
> a6f039ff4...@s31g2000yqs.googlegroups.com:
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> rotflmao at your preponderate inanity...

•• Good luck to you in your INSANITY!

–  –
There are three types of people that you
can_not_talk into behaving well. The
stupid, the religious fanatic, and the evil.

1-The stupid aren't smart enough to
follow the logic of what you say. You
have to tell them what is right in very
simple terms. If they don't agree, then
you'll never be able to change their mind.

2- the religious fanatic

If what you say goes against their
religious belief, they will cling to that
religious belief even if it means their
death."

3- There is no way to reform evil-
   Not in a million years

There is no way to convince the terrorists,
anthropogenic global warming alarmists,
serial killers, paedophiles, and predators
to change their evil ways. They knew what
they were doing was wrong, but that
knowledge didn't stop them. It only made
them more careful in how they went about
performing their evil acts.
 
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