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SOI, Not CO2, Drives Global Temperature

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boonz - 23 Jul 2009 05:11 GMT
Influence Of The Southern Oscillation On Tropospheric Temperature

23 Jul 2009

Influence of the Southern Oscillation on tropospheric temperature

J. D. McLean

Applied Science Consultants, Croydon, Victoria, Australia

C. R. de Freitas

School of Geography, Geology and Environmental Science, University of
Auckland, Auckland, New Zealand

R. M. Carter

Marine Geophysical Laboratory, James Cook University, Townsville,
Queensland, Australia

Time series for the Southern Oscillation Index (SOI) and global tropospheric
temperature anomalies (GTTA) are compared for the 1958?2008 period. GTTA are
represented by data from satellite microwave sensing units (MSU) for the
period 1980-2008 and from radiosondes (RATPAC) for 1958-2008.

After the removal from the data set of short periods of temperature
perturbation that relate to near-equator volcanic eruption, we use
derivatives to document the presence of a 5- to 7-month delayed close
relationship between SOI and GTTA.

Change in SOI accounts for 72% of the variance in GTTA for the 29-year-long
MSU record and 68% of the variance in GTTA for the longer 50-year RATPAC
record.

Because El Niño?Southern Oscillation is known to exercise a particularly
strong influence in the tropics, we also compared the SOI with tropical
temperature anomalies between 20°S and 20°N.

The results showed that SOI accounted for 81% of the variance in
tropospheric temperature anomalies in the tropics.

Overall the results suggest that the Southern Oscillation exercises a
consistently dominant influence on mean global temperature, with a maximum
effect in the tropics, except for periods when equatorial volcanism causes
ad hoc cooling.

That mean global tropospheric temperature has for the last 50 years fallen
and risen in close accord with the SOI of 5-7 months earlier shows the
potential of natural forcing mechanisms to account for most of the
temperature variation.

Received 16 December 2008; accepted 14 May 2009; published 23 July 2009.

Citation: McLean, J. D., C. R. de Freitas, and R. M. Carter (2009),
Influence of the Southern Oscillation on tropospheric temperature, J.
Geophys. Res., 114, D14104, doi:10.1029/2008JD011637.

http://www.agu.org/pubs/crossref/2009/2008JD011637.shtml

Warmest Regards

Bonzo
BDR529 - 26 Jul 2009 07:36 GMT
SOI is driven by ocean temperature, and thus the question is, what
caused the ocean temperatures to change. There should be a change in the
heat flux and it is very likely this is a forcing is affected by global
warming.

Actually, this maybe an interesting phenomenon we could see. The rate of
El Nino's could change as a result of GW. We could get more and more
events like 1997-1998 which was the most recent substantial ENSO.

http://environment.about.com/od/globalwarming/a/elninolanina.htm

Q

> Influence Of The Southern Oscillation On Tropospheric Temperature
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> Bonzo
Last Post - 26 Jul 2009 15:18 GMT
> SOI is driven by ocean temperature, and thus the question is, what
> caused the ocean temperatures to change. There should be a change in the
> heat flux and it is very likely this is a forcing is affected by global
> warming.

•• There is NO forcing affected by global warming,
   because there is NO global warming. BTW what
   heat flux??? What forcing???

•• Trust Jackass Jake to top post his idiotic response
   so no one would notice that his garbage IS really
   garbage.

> Actually, this maybe an interesting phenomenon we could see. The rate of
> El Nino's could change as a result of GW. We could get more and more
> events like 1997-1998 which was the most recent substantial ENSO.

•• More idiocy from Jackass Jake

> http://environment.about.com/od/globalwarming/a/elninolanina.htm
>
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>
> > Bonzo

––  ––
In real science the burden of proof is always on
the proposer, never on the sceptics. So far
neither IPCC nor anyone else has provided one
iota of valid data for global warming nor have
they provided data that climate change is being
effected by commerce and industry, and not by
natural phenomena.
BDR529 - 26 Jul 2009 15:47 GMT
>> SOI is driven by ocean temperature, and thus the question is, what
>> caused the ocean temperatures to change. There should be a change in the
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>     because there is NO global warming. BTW what
>     heat flux??? What forcing???

Stupid last post doesn't understand any physics.

> •• Trust Jackass Jake to top post his idiotic response
>     so no one would notice that his garbage IS really
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>>
>> Q

Last post did read the link, didn't read anything, he is problem a
runaway bot.

>>> Influence Of The Southern Oscillation On Tropospheric Temperature
>>> 23 Jul 2009
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> effected by commerce and industry, and not by
> natural phenomena.
Last Post - 26 Jul 2009 17:08 GMT
> >> SOI is driven by ocean temperature, and thus the question is, what
> >> caused the ocean temperatures to change. There should be a change in the
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>
> Stupid last post doesn't understand any physics.

•• Jackass Jake keeps proclaiming his ignorance,
   but never provides any real proof except for
   the aforesaid ignorance.

•• BTW - I had a degree in physics before you
               were born.

> > •• Trust Jackass Jake to top post his idiotic response
> >     so no one would notice that his garbage IS really
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> >>http://environment.about.com/od/globalwarming/a/elninolanina.htm

•• ROTFLMO: Another AGW alarmist clearing house
   of no use to anyone.

> >>> Influence Of The Southern Oscillation On Tropospheric Temperature
> >>> 23 Jul 2009
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> >>> Warmest Regards
> >>> Bonzo

––  ––
In real science the burden of proof is always on
the proposer, never on the sceptics. So far
neither IPCC nor anyone else has provided one
iota of valid data for global warming nor have
they provided data that climate change is being
effected by commerce and industry, and not by
natural phenomena.
BDR529 - 27 Jul 2009 08:00 GMT
>>>> SOI is driven by ocean temperature, and thus the question is, what
>>>> caused the ocean temperatures to change. There should be a change in the
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> •• BTW - I had a degree in physics before you
>                 were born.

Maybe you suffer from dementia and you all forget what science is about.

Maybe try to answer the original problem if you can: WHAT caused the
ocean heat content to go upwards as is confirmed by CTD, XBT, radiometer
and IR ocean surface measurements?

You still have no clue?

Q

>>> •• Trust Jackass Jake to top post his idiotic response
>>>     so no one would notice that his garbage IS really
[quoted text clipped - 58 lines]
>  effected by commerce and industry, and not by
>  natural phenomena.

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Our Lady of Blessed Acceleration, don't fail me now!

addinall - 27 Jul 2009 08:34 GMT
> >>>> SOI is driven by ocean temperature, and thus the question is, what
> >>>> caused the ocean temperatures to change. There should be a change in the
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>
> You still have no clue?

It sure isn't CO2 in the air.  Given the fact that the sea is cooling,
as well as the atmosphere,
but still remains 1-2C warmer than the atmosphere, explain again how a
non-warming
atmosphere can transmit heat to a warmer ocean.

Mark Addinall.

> Q
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Kangaroo Court Australia - 27 Jul 2009 08:44 GMT
> It sure isn't CO2 in the air.  Given the fact that the sea is cooling,
> as well as the atmosphere,
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>
> Mark Addinall.

Maybe its the whales and dolphins on heat ;)

check photosynthesis in the photoplanktons
addinall - 27 Jul 2009 08:52 GMT
On Jul 27, 4:44 pm, Kangaroo Court Australia <nwn.webmas...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> > It sure isn't CO2 in the air.  Given the fact that the sea is cooling,
> > as well as the atmosphere,
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>
> check photosynthesis in the photoplanktons

f.ck off.  Check Plank.

Mark Addinall.
BDR529 - 27 Jul 2009 08:53 GMT
>>>>>> SOI is driven by ocean temperature, and thus the question is, what
>>>>>> caused the ocean temperatures to change. There should be a change in the
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>
> Mark Addinall.

In the real world, it is still getting hotter thanks to GW,

Q

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Our Lady of Blessed Acceleration, don't fail me now!

Greatest Mining Pioneer of Australia of all Times - 27 Jul 2009 15:21 GMT
On Jul 27, 11:41 am, kangarooistan <kangarooist...@gmail.com> wrote:

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Australia Mining Pioneer
Founder of the True Geology
 
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