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A question about replication of E.coli chromosome

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Yang - 18 Oct 2006 05:49 GMT
Hi everyone. I got a question about the replication cycle of E.coli
chromosome. Say, the growth condition is sufficient, then what
determine the time of  the cycle of  replication ? And I want to know
how the rate of synthesization of protein affect the time. Thanks in
advance.
HuskyPhD - 18 Oct 2006 07:34 GMT
This question is kind of vague.  Anyway, the quickest E. coli can
replicate is around 20 minutes.  It's limited to this, really, due to
its inability to grow any faster.  Before a bacterium divides, it needs
to replicate its chromosome (actually, it can replicate the chromosome
quicker than it takes to divide the cell.....and most of the time, you
can have 2, 4, 8....etc. numbers of chromosomes in the same cell).  It
also needs to expand its cell wall and double the number of ribosomes.
This takes time.....about 20 minutes for E. coli under the best
conditions.

Any bacterial physiologists out there with more insight?

--Alex

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Alex B. Berezow, Grad Student
Dept. of Microbiology
University of Washington School of Medicine
Seattle, WA  98195

> Hi everyone. I got a question about the replication cycle of E.coli
> chromosome. Say, the growth condition is sufficient, then what
> determine the time of  the cycle of  replication ? And I want to know
> how the rate of synthesization of protein affect the time. Thanks in
> advance.
Yang - 18 Oct 2006 09:58 GMT
I'm sorry for the "kind of vague".  :-)
What I really want to know is why some bacteria are different much
clearly from each other on the replication time when they are all under
the best conditions.Take E.coli and Mycobacterium tuberculosis for
example.
The other question is how the temperature affects the rate of the
replication?
Is it adjusted by the activities of the enzymes?

HuskyPhD 写道:

> This question is kind of vague.  Anyway, the quickest E. coli can
> replicate is around 20 minutes.  It's limited to this, really, due to
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> > how the rate of synthesization of protein affect the time. Thanks in
> > advance.
Larry Farrell - 18 Oct 2006 15:53 GMT
It takes E. coli 40 minutes to replicate its
chromosome, no matter what the conditions.  It
takes another 20 minutes to complete necessary
cellular process for division.  The only reason
that E. coli can have generation times of less
than 60 minutes is that a given round of
chromosomal replication does not have to be
completed before the next round is initiated

> This question is kind of vague.  Anyway, the quickest E. coli can
> replicate is around 20 minutes.  It's limited to this, really, due to
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>>how the rate of synthesization of protein affect the time. Thanks in
>>advance.

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Larry D. Farrell, Ph.D.
Professor of Microbiology
Idaho State University

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HuskyPhD - 19 Oct 2006 03:06 GMT
Whoops, my bad.  It's been a while since I studied this stuff.  Yeah,
Larry is right.....the chromosome takes longer to replicate than the
cell takes to divide.

I think Yang's question though, is "Why 20 minutes?  Why not 5 minutes?
And why are other bacteria slower?"

To these questions, I don't really know.  I suppose that it takes a
certain amount of time to double the number of ribosomes, expand the
cell wall, etc., and that E. coli simply can't go faster than 20
minutes.  Other bacteria are just slower than E. coli.

Keep in mind E. coli is pretty unusual.....MOST bacteria don't double
in 20 minutes.  That's why microbiologists and molecular biologists use
E. coli....it's unusually fast.

--Alex

*******************
Alex B. Berezow, Grad Student
Dept. of Microbiology
University of Washington School of Medicine
Seattle, WA  98195

> It takes E. coli 40 minutes to replicate its
> chromosome, no matter what the conditions.  It
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> chromosomal replication does not have to be
> completed before the next round is initiated
Yang - 19 Oct 2006 07:09 GMT
Thanks a lot!
I suppose that the time for the replication of chromosome may not
differ as much as the generation time  between E.coli and
M.tuberculosis.
Am I right?

HuskyPhD 写道:

> Whoops, my bad.  It's been a while since I studied this stuff.  Yeah,
> Larry is right.....the chromosome takes longer to replicate than the
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
> > chromosomal replication does not have to be
> > completed before the next round is initiated
Yang - 19 Oct 2006 07:09 GMT
Thanks a lot!
I suppose that the time for the replication of chromosome may not
differ as much as the generation time  between E.coli and
M.tuberculosis.
Am I right?

HuskyPhD 写道:

> Whoops, my bad.  It's been a while since I studied this stuff.  Yeah,
> Larry is right.....the chromosome takes longer to replicate than the
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
> > chromosomal replication does not have to be
> > completed before the next round is initiated
Larry Farrell - 19 Oct 2006 15:12 GMT
> Thanks a lot!
> I suppose that the time for the replication of chromosome may not
> differ as much as the generation time  between E.coli and
> M.tuberculosis.
> Am I right?

Basically.  When genome replication occurs, it
runs at a specific rate as defined by the enzymes
involved, which don't vary that much between
different types of bacteria.  The only thing that
really relates to the length of time required for
chromosomal replication, then, is the size of the
chromosome.  Initiation of chromosomal replication
is linked to other functions in the cell that
relate to cell division, so the cell doesn't just
randomly make chromosomal copies that hang around
in the cell.  If it takes the cell a long time to
get ready to divide, initiation of chromosomal
replication will be delayed a long time.
Therefore, generation times will vary tremendously
but the time required to copy the genome will vary
only to the extent that genome sizes vary between
different types of bacteria.

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Larry D. Farrell, Ph.D.
Professor of Microbiology
Idaho State University

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Yang - 19 Oct 2006 16:33 GMT
THANKS A LOT!   ^_^

Larry Farrell 写道:

> > Thanks a lot!
> > I suppose that the time for the replication of chromosome may not
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> Professor of Microbiology
> Idaho State University
 
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