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Natural Science Forum / Physics / Optics / November 2004



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Martina Roso - 23 Nov 2004 16:01 GMT
Hi, I`m studying the  behaviour of nanosilica particles in organic
resin(in particular epoxy resin)and I`d like to see the structure of
the nanocomposite before the curing process!!I have some difficulty
observing the sample with transmission electron microscopy
(TEM)because before the curing process it is a gel and it`s very
difficult to get a thin film!
Moreover, in the specimens chamber the sample can heat up due to the
energy transfer process and I don`t know if it will be damaged! Can
you tell me something about it or do you know if there is another
microscopic technique to look at this kind of systhem.

Regards,
Martina Roso
RCHIOVETTI - 23 Nov 2004 17:39 GMT
>I`d like to see the structure of
> the nanocomposite before the curing process!!I have some difficulty
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>Regards,
>Martina Roso

Hi Martina,

I would suggest cryoultramicrotomy as a good way to approach the problem.  This
way, you could observe the nanocomposite material in a "close-to-native" state.

I've used this technique to visualize silica-rubber nanocomposites, and it
works quite well.

The technique requires an ultramicrotome that's equipped with a cryosectioning
system.  It works very similar to regular frozen sectioning, except the
temperatures are much lower (down to about -186 degrees C if necessary) and the
sections are thin enough (60-100 nm) so that you can mount them on a grid and
observe them in the TEM.

Some trial-and-error would be needed to identify the proper sectioning
temperature for the resin, and the sections may tend to collapse on the grid
after they're brought to room temperature, but there are some things you can do
minimize these problems.

Please contact me off-list if you would like additional information.  I can
recommend some people to talk to.

Good luck and best regards,

Robert (Bob) Chiovetti, Ph.D.
<rchiovetti@aol.com>
Xin Zhang - 25 Nov 2004 05:14 GMT
Hi, guys,

Do you think grid with carbon film may help if the gel is very liquid
like? The carbon film can hold the gel I think.

Xin
Pete - 30 Nov 2004 15:58 GMT
Hi,
The idea about cryo electron microscopy sounds like a good one. It
depends what you want to find out about the resin...
You COULD try AFM. You don't get sample heating with this. I would
suggest tapping/noncontact mode, but if your expoy resin is already
quite tacky before cure, it's likely even in this mode the probe will
stick to your sample. It MIGHT work though, if the sample is not too
sticky. It is possible to see some very soft polymer surfaces(even
liquids) with great care. IF you can get a cryo electron microscope,
that'd be best, though.
Pete.
 
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