Now, you can buy outstanding eyepieces from Nikon, Zeiss, Olympus, etc.
But it wasn't always that way.
I wonder why it took companies making microscopes so long to come out
with decent eyepieces?
I'm not talking about for top dollar microscopes, but the student units
and even some lab
units up until a decade ago had very poor quality (design) eyepieces.
The Huygens eyepiece is over 300 years old. The Kellner (achromatic
eye lens) is at least 100 years old.
Narrow fields, blurred edges, all sorts of aberrations either produced
by the eyepiece or exaggerations of aberrations from inexpensive
objective lenses.
Compensating eyepieces existed, but honestly they could not match
coupling a decent
telescope eyepiece to a microscope.
Many years ago, I would cobble decent telescope eyepieces
(orthoscopics, Plossls, etc) onto microscopes and was amazed at the
field quality and size increases I achieved. Now, you can buy really
outstanding eyepieces, fully matched to the
objectives but it certainly was odd that when you could buy
consumer-grade telescopes with
high quality eyepieces and yet microscope eyepiece quality was poor.
Times change.
Kevin Cunningham - 19 Apr 2006 13:28 GMT
> Now, you can buy outstanding eyepieces from Nikon, Zeiss, Olympus, etc.
> But it wasn't always that way.
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> high quality eyepieces and yet microscope eyepiece quality was poor.
> Times change.
Rich, Nice ideas, too bad there are huge problems. There are things like
lateral correcton that can be corrected either in the eyepiece or in the
objective, one maker uses one type of correction and another maker uses
another type. You need to use the eyepieces designed by the maker.
As for primitive eyepieces, I haven't seen them. The big four primarily use
kompensated type, have for decades. There are cheap eyepieces made but
those are for second and third rate cheapies.
Kevin Cunningham
SMS
Rich - 19 Apr 2006 22:50 GMT
The even kompensated eyepieces from some time ago have issues,
principally
narrow fields of view. But, nowadays even microscope eyepieces provide
reasonable fields.
But you are right, the better quality instruments have no optical
issues today.
My last scope was a Leitz SM-Lux with primarily plan-apos and it
produced remarkable images.
-Rich
Trond Kvitvik - 20 Apr 2006 06:26 GMT
> The even kompensated eyepieces from some time ago have issues,
> principally
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> produced remarkable images.
> -Rich
Our eye lens has huge chromatic errors, which we compensate for in our
retina and brain. Similarly we compensate a lot when we view a
microscopy image. When taking photos with a microscope, the errors of a
system cannot be hidden, perhaps the increased use of photomicrography
forced some of the improvement.

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Rich - 20 Apr 2006 13:04 GMT
Very true. It's often pretty shocking when you see an image versus
what you
saw in the scope. But you get used to it.
GTO - 21 Apr 2006 04:34 GMT
And what exactly is shocking?
The only thing I realize is that the eye samples the image in z-direction
and the camera does not. The eye also closes its iris dynamically and hence
gives the observer the impression that he actually sees a more contrasty
image than a cheap digital camera can record. But compared to the expensive,
Peltier-cooled image sensors, this is a completely different story. BTW,
most of us are not using "standard" eyepieces for photomicrography but
dedicated relay lenses that cost $600 or more. I doubt that any ocular for a
telescope is better than these highly corrected relay lenses. This is
especially true for a setup where the intermediate image is directly
projected onto the image sensor as it is recommended for Nikon's research
frames.
Gregor
> Very true. It's often pretty shocking when you see an image versus
> what you
> saw in the scope. But you get used to it.
Dora Smith - 27 Apr 2006 01:29 GMT
Ingles, por favor!
I am looking at two resolutions, 0.3 megapixels and 1.3 megapixels. Is 0.3
megapixels enough or do I need 1.3 megapixels?

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> Now, you can buy outstanding eyepieces from Nikon, Zeiss, Olympus, etc.
> But it wasn't always that way.
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> high quality eyepieces and yet microscope eyepiece quality was poor.
> Times change.