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Articulating Arm to Hold Fiberscope?

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Will - 25 Oct 2007 06:09 GMT
Does anyone make an articulating arm that we could use to orient a fiber
scope into a fiber adapter, leaving the human operator's hands free to work
with software that analyzes the image?

The product we are using is the Westover USB fiberscope, and it works with
their Fiberchek software to analyze defects on the fiber tip.   The problem
is you have to really work to get the probe correctly centered on the fiber,
and then somehow stretch your hand over to manipulate the mouse to work with
their software.   If there were a clamp on an articulating arm that we could
drag over to the fixture, orient, insert, and then take our hands off and
have the probe maintain the orientation and position, it would be really
helpful to working with the software.

What options do we have?

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Phil Hobbs - 25 Oct 2007 12:20 GMT
> Does anyone make an articulating arm that we could use to orient a fiber
> scope into a fiber adapter, leaving the human operator's hands free to work
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>
> What options do we have?

Look at Bogen Magic Arm, manufactured by Manfrotto.  They're the greatest.

Cheers,

Phil Hobbs
Will - 26 Oct 2007 00:33 GMT
>> Does anyone make an articulating arm that we could use to orient a fiber
>> scope into a fiber adapter, leaving the human operator's hands free to
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>
> Look at Bogen Magic Arm, manufactured by Manfrotto.  They're the greatest.

I was hoping for something with a heavy base and very long extending arm
with multiple joints.   Something similar to what you see on a fully
articulating optical microscope would be ideal, but with a mechanical "hand"
at the end for gripping.

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Phil Hobbs - 26 Oct 2007 01:39 GMT
>>> Does anyone make an articulating arm that we could use to orient a fiber
>>> scope into a fiber adapter, leaving the human operator's hands free to
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> articulating optical microscope would be ideal, but with a mechanical "hand"
> at the end for gripping.

I thought you said you could position it with your own arm?  The Bogen
is about the same size as yours, and has the same number of joints.    I
use mine attached to an optical table to hold a heavy infrared
camera--it's very good for what I need, anyway.  It has a 1/4-20 thread
on each end, so you can bolt it to whatever you like.  Plus it's only
$100 or so.

Cheers,

Phil Hobbs
Will - 30 Oct 2007 05:20 GMT
>>>> Does anyone make an articulating arm that we could use to orient a
>>>> fiber scope into a fiber adapter, leaving the human operator's hands
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> very good for what I need, anyway.  It has a 1/4-20 thread on each end, so
> you can bolt it to whatever you like.  Plus it's only $100 or so.

It's a question of reach.    The "arm" needs to reach out maybe two to three
feet and then be arranged into unusual angles, depending on the card being
inspected.

The "hand" mechanism on the device you mentioned looks adequate, but the arm
part looks too short, and not really counterbalanced sufficiently.

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Phil Hobbs - 30 Oct 2007 16:19 GMT
>>>>> Does anyone make an articulating arm that we could use to orient a
>>>>> fiber scope into a fiber adapter, leaving the human operator's hands
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> The "hand" mechanism on the device you mentioned looks adequate, but the arm
> part looks too short, and not really counterbalanced sufficiently.

It isn't counterbalanced at all.  You position it where you want it, and
then turn the handle at the elbow, which locks all the joints in
position.  It's slick as can be, but you obviously know your requirement
better than I do.  If you find something you like, please post a link.

Cheers,

Phil Hobbs
Will - 30 Oct 2007 23:15 GMT
>>>>>> Does anyone make an articulating arm that we could use to orient a
>>>>>> fiber scope into a fiber adapter, leaving the human operator's hands
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> It's slick as can be, but you obviously know your requirement better than
> I do.  If you find something you like, please post a link.

And that is exactly the point:   I'm testing cards in fixtures, and the
artificial "hand" needs to hang in the air many feet above the floor.
There is no table surface anywhere in the vicinity of the test point on the
card.

What I need is something like a robot arm used in manufacturing without the
robot. :)

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Will

> Cheers,
>
> Phil Hobbs
John_H - 30 Oct 2007 23:42 GMT
> And that is exactly the point:   I'm testing cards in fixtures, and the
> artificial "hand" needs to hang in the air many feet above the floor.
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> What I need is something like a robot arm used in manufacturing without
> the robot. :)

Is the fixture near a magnetic surface?  Is the "many feet above the floor"
still accesible from the floor?  It could be there's still a clean way to
make the arm work if you allow the "shoulder" to be attached in some way
besides a simple desk-top clamp.  Umbrella stands are available for the arm.
A standard tripod may work as well for stability at greater heights.  An
articulated arm with multiple joins and counterweights for many feet of
traversal seems like an awfully "tall" order.

- John_H
Will - 31 Oct 2007 00:44 GMT
>> And that is exactly the point:   I'm testing cards in fixtures, and the
>> artificial "hand" needs to hang in the air many feet above the floor.
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> heights.  An articulated arm with multiple joins and counterweights for
> many feet of traversal seems like an awfully "tall" order.

The fixture is just a 72 inch high 19 inch computer rack, with large telecom
assemblies rack mounted to it.   There are maybe three of these racks side
by side, and a given card under test could be on the top or bottom half of
any of those racks.

The ideal fixture would be a rackmounted arm, somewhere in the middle of the
three racks, that imitates a human arm, with swivel ball joints at
"shoulder" "elbow" and "wrist" locations.   Something like the Bogen Magic
arm for the "hand" part of the assembly might work fine.

The basic workflow would be to orient the hand at the right angle, and
position, then to push it into the fixture and let it stabilize its position
so you could then view the fiber on an LCD without a lot of "jitter" that
might occur from a human holding the probe in place.

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John_H - 31 Oct 2007 18:52 GMT
> The fixture is just a 72 inch high 19 inch computer rack, with large
> telecom assemblies rack mounted to it.   There are maybe three of these
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> position so you could then view the fiber on an LCD without a lot of
> "jitter" that might occur from a human holding the probe in place.

Me - I'd go magnetic.  It'd me nice to have everything completely
integrated, but the fiber scope has to be on an umbilical anyway.  You
wouldn't even need the full arm if you have complete control over the
vertical position of a magnetic "shelf" that moves with the fiber scope.
Just return the shelf and scop to the "home" position in the racks when it's
not being used.

- John_H
 
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