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Michael Koch - 25 Nov 2004 16:26 GMT
Hi all,

I just saw an article in "Opto & Laser Europe", November
2004 issue, page 14. Here is a short extract of it:

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... A technology called silicate bonding, pioneered by
Stanford University and optimized by the Glasgow team, is
used to permanently "lock" the parts to a glass baseplate,
without the use of any non-glass material. This gives the
required long-term positional stability of better than 10
picometers over 20 minutes. "Essentially it works like
chemical welding," explained Caldwell. "You put a little
drop of silicate hydroxide between the surfaces to be joined
and it cross-links the bonds of the glass to create a very
permanent and stable bond." ...
****

Does anyone know more about this technology?

Thanks,
Michael
Bret Cannon - 26 Nov 2004 07:17 GMT
I believe that the process was invented by Jason Gwo (currently at Lawence
Livermore National Lab I believe) while he was as Stanford University
working on the Gravity Probe B project.  Stanford University has a patent on
the process.  I don't know what refinements have been developed by people in
Glasgow.

Bret Cannon

> Hi all,
>
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> Thanks,
> Michael
Joseph Gwinn - 26 Nov 2004 14:26 GMT
> I believe that the process was invented by Jason Gwo (currently at Lawence
> Livermore National Lab I believe) while he was as Stanford University
> working on the Gravity Probe B project.  Stanford University has a patent on
> the process.  I don't know what refinements have been developed by people in
> Glasgow.

This piqued my curiosity.  The process is covered by US Patents
6,548,176 (Hydroxide-catalyzed bonding) and 6,284,085 (Ultra precision
and reliable bonding method).   The process is dead simple.

US Patents can be seen at http://www.uspto.gov.

Joe Gwinn
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> > Hi all,
> >
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> > Thanks,
> > Michael
Rene Tschaggelar - 27 Nov 2004 12:02 GMT
Dissolved glass as glue for glass...
Another patent with infinitely small invention height.

Rene

> I believe that the process was invented by Jason Gwo (currently at Lawence
> Livermore National Lab I believe) while he was as Stanford University
> working on the Gravity Probe B project.  Stanford University has a patent on
> the process.  I don't know what refinements have been developed by people in
> Glasgow.
Sam Goldwasser - 27 Nov 2004 13:27 GMT
> Dissolved glass as glue for glass...
> Another patent with infinitely small invention height.
>
> Rene

So let's have a show of hands:  To how many people who attach optical
components would this have been an obvious method?  An invention doesn't
have to be obscure or complex to be significant and patentable.

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> > I believe that the process was invented by Jason Gwo (currently at
> > Lawence Livermore National Lab I believe) while he was as Stanford
> > University working on the Gravity Probe B project.  Stanford
> > University has a patent on the process.  I don't know what
> > refinements have been developed by people in Glasgow.
AES/newspost - 27 Nov 2004 16:30 GMT
> So let's have a show of hands:  To how many people who attach optical
> components would this have been an obvious method?  An invention doesn't
> have to be obscure or complex to be significant and patentable.

In our present dysfunctional patent system an invention also doesn't
have to be novel, or new, or significant, or inventive, or nonobvious,
or clearly or adequately described, or understandable, or not have been
widely known previously, or not have been openly published previously,
or describe an invention that works, or a concept that makes technical
sense, or that even obeys the laws of physics.
David M - 29 Nov 2004 13:12 GMT
>>Dissolved glass as glue for glass...
>>Another patent with infinitely small invention height.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> components would this have been an obvious method?  An invention doesn't
> have to be obscure or complex to be significant and patentable.

about 10 years ago , myself and a couple of  colleagues did briefly toy with
using sol-gels to bond optical fibres to glass blocks but the sol-gels we
had ready access to weren't suitable for the intended purpose. Wrong viscosity.

cheers

David
Joseph Gwinn - 27 Nov 2004 17:51 GMT
> Dissolved glass as glue for glass...
> Another patent with infinitely small invention height.

If this was so obvious, how come somebody didn't come up with it aeons
ago?  It solved a long standing problem, for which no simple solution
had yet emerged.  

One mark of a good invention is just this - in retrospect, it seems so  
obvious.

Joe Gwinn

> Rene
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> > the process.  I don't know what refinements have been developed by people
> > in Glasgow.
 
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