Problem with Laser-fiber coupler
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Jepessen - 27 Nov 2008 17:39 GMT Ho to everyone.
I've a problem with a laser-fiber coupler.
I'm using a polarization mantaining fiber to redirect a He-Ne laser beam to a desired direction, without moving the laser. Considering that I want to mantain the polarization. I'm using a single-mode panda- style fiber. The connector of fiber is FC-PC.
I'm coupling it with the He-Ne laser using a OZ Optics Coupler
http://www.ozoptics.com/ALLNEW_PDF/DTS0049.pdf
The code is HPUCO-23-400/700-P-3.5AC (FC-PC connector, 3.5mm achromatic lens, wavelength range from 400 to 700nm).
So I'm using a coupler for an PC-FC connector, polarization mantaing optical fiber.
My problem is that the laser beam at the output of the fiber has a big casual oscillation, of about 20% of output power. This oscillation is not present when I measure the output power of the laser beam, without the fiber coupler.
So, I think that probably the problem is caused by the coupling of the fiber, because connection is FC-PC, and not FC-APC that have an 8° angle polishing the end of the fiber, that reduce reflected power. Obviously I suggested to use FC-APC connector, but my boss has decided for the more economic solution :-(
So, I'd like to know how I can resolve this problem. Obviously buying a new coupler and a new fiber for FC-APC connectors shoud be the best solution, but I want to try to use what I have. For example, according to you, using an FC-APC connector into an FC-PC coupler, will decrease esponentially the coupling coefficient? I will have a gap, between core position of the fiber, of about 100um, and I think that it's definitely not good.
I've seen this application note
http://www.ozoptics.com/ALLNEW_PDF/APN0006.pdf
and there's written that I can use AFC geometry. It's the right way to try to solve the problem without changing the coupler?
Thanks for anwers.
AES - 27 Nov 2008 22:20 GMT In article <52cbb4aa-f522-4345-bff3-290664a979ef@j39g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
> My problem is that the laser beam at the output of the fiber has a big > casual oscillation, of about 20% of output power. This oscillation is > not present when I measure the output power of the laser beam, without > the fiber coupler. I don't have hands-on experience with this particular situation, but the problem is most likely back-reflections from surfaces in the coupler or fiber going directly back into He-Ne laser and driving it crazy.
If the laser is directly and efficiently coupled into the fiber, any reflections within the coupler-fiber system are automatically coupled equally efficiently and directly back into the laser -- and lasers don't like that at all.
If this is the situation, serious AR-coating of all significant surfaces may help, but a professional-grade isolator is probably going to be needed.
Jepessen - 28 Nov 2008 09:56 GMT Thanks for your answer. I also think that the coating or the AFC connector is the best solution, but I want to be sure that the cause is back-reflection itself. I'm glad to see that another people thinks the same thing :-)
I've measured the output power, in an hour, and that's the result.
http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gruy4.gif
As you see, in this way it's pratically useless...
Do you know any method for decrease backreflection without change the fiber?
Daniele
> In article > <52cbb4aa-f522-4345-bff3-290664a97...@j39g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > may help, but a professional-grade isolator is probably going to be > needed. Ron - 28 Nov 2008 12:25 GMT I do have some hands-on experience. To me, this instability looks much too low-frequency for just laser feedback mechanism. I would also suspect the mechanical stability of the setup. Launching into single -mode fibre is very sensitive to misalignment.
I would investigate the effects of temperature and vibration on the launch efficiency. Some HeNes can exhibit pointing instability, although measuring this is not trivial. I also much prefer the (more expensive) Point Source couplers to Oz for ease and stability of alignment.
Good luck.
Ron
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Thanks for your answer. I also think that the coating or the AFC connector is the best solution, but I want to be sure that the cause is back-reflection itself. I'm glad to see that another people thinks the same thing :-)
I've measured the output power, in an hour, and that's the result.
http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gruy4.gif
As you see, in this way it's pratically useless...
Do you know any method for decrease backreflection without change the fiber?
Daniele
On 27 Nov, 23:20, AES <sieg...@stanford.edu> wrote:
> In article > <52cbb4aa-f522-4345-bff3-290664a97...@j39g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > may help, but a professional-grade isolator is probably going to be > needed. Jepessen - 28 Nov 2008 13:20 GMT Mechanical stability? Mmmmm... It's possible. So I must to try to screw up more the coupler, to stabilize it? I'll try it. Thanks for suggestion.
Daniele
> I do have some hands-on experience. To me, this instability looks much too > low-frequency for just laser feedback mechanism. I would also suspect the [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Gibbs Associates > Optical Design Consultantwww.gibbsassociates.co.uk Jürgen Appel - 29 Nov 2008 10:05 GMT Jepessen schrieb:
> Mechanical stability? Mmmmm... It's possible. So I must to try to > screw up more the coupler, to stabilize it? I'll try it. Thanks for > suggestion. I doubt it will complete remove it. There seems to be a 'base' power level and on top of that you have a fluctuating part. It does not look like polarization issues to me, the drifts are not continuous enough. To me it looks like a laser that occasionally runs either in another mode or in two modes.
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Samuel M. Goldwasser - 29 Nov 2008 14:07 GMT > Jepessen schrieb: > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > looks like a laser that occasionally runs either in another mode or in two > modes. His laser normally runs in 5 or 6 or more longitudinal modes. It's If I recall, it's a 10-15 mW polarized red HeNe laser.
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Samuel M. Goldwasser - 28 Nov 2008 13:36 GMT > I do have some hands-on experience. To me, this instability looks much too > low-frequency for just laser feedback mechanism. I would also suspect the [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > > may help, but a professional-grade isolator is probably going to be > > needed. One thing to note in his plot is that while the variation isn't a nice sinewave, the period starts out short and increases as the laser warms up. This does suggest that mode sweep and the resultant change in the longitudinal modes and their wavelength is a contributing factor, if not the sole cause. I wouldn't expect changes in pointing or other slow expansion outside the tube to have this impact unless there is an etalong or resonance effect going on within the fiber of between some other optical surfaces.
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jk - 28 Nov 2008 15:22 GMT >Ho to everyone. > [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] >and there's written that I can use AFC geometry. It's the right way to >try to solve the problem without changing the coupler? I have experience with polarization maintaning single mode fibres. The problem is that your input-polarization is not aligned with the principal axes of the fiber. There are 2 possible coincidences. You might have to study the physics of retarder plate optics. The insertion of a lambda-half retarder plate could give you an easy adjustment not influencing in theory on the focusing adjustment, since it is a plane parallel plate that is rotated. But such a retarder plate is quite expensive. When input pol. is not aligned with principal axes the fiber will act as a retarder plate, so output pol. will be quite temperature sensitive, and sensitive to all movements.
best regards
John
osr@uakron.edu - 28 Nov 2008 16:57 GMT IT is a polarized hene?
Steve Roberts
jk - 30 Nov 2008 20:46 GMT >IT is a polarized hene? The laser, yes of course.
The pol. of the light sent into the fiber has to be coaligned with one or the other orthogonal principal axes of the fiber to maintain the polarization !
This is optics, my friends. Not a water tube.
best regards
John
Jepessen - 28 Nov 2008 20:28 GMT Thanks for your answers
@Mr. Roberts: Yes, it's polarized, with a polarization ratio of about 500:1, as the datasheet says.
@Mr. Goldwasser: In practice, you say that the backreflection can be the main cause of this oscillation, and that I must to use the AFC connector, to minimize it? Or I can solve it in another way?
@Mr. jk: I've seen this Application note: http://www.ozoptics.com/ALLNEW_PDF/DTS0071.pdf This is the company from which the local reseller has taken fiber and coupler. In the last two pages you can see the note about alignment. The connector key is aligned with the slow axis, so, to mantain polarization with my He-Ne, laser, I must to have this key connector at the top, considering that the laser is vertically-polarized, right? Do you think that changing the angle can reduce power oscillations? And, considering that I actually don't know who have built the fiber, the slow axis of the fiber core aligned with the key connector, it's a standard or I can have some other combination? Because for me it's difficult to rotate the fiber, considering that we must to create a mechanical adapter between the coupler and the laser head.
@Mr. Ron: II'm actually using the OZ coupler HPUCO-23-400/700-P-3.5AC, as I've said in the first post of this thread. Do you think that this is not good for this type of laser?
Daniele
Samuel M. Goldwasser - 29 Nov 2008 00:51 GMT > @Mr. Goldwasser: In practice, you say that the backreflection can be > the main cause of this oscillation, and that I must to use the AFC > connector, to minimize it? Or I can solve it in another way? I'm saying it is one possibility, though the etalon effect of two parallel surfaces seems more likely in your case but could be a combination.
Angled optics to divert the backreflection would help.
An isolator would help.
Do the tests we have been suggesting and report back.
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jk - 01 Dec 2008 10:17 GMT >Thanks for your answers
>@Mr. jk: I've seen this Application note: >http://www.ozoptics.com/ALLNEW_PDF/DTS0071.pdf [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >difficult to rotate the fiber, considering that we must to create a >mechanical adapter between the coupler and the laser head. Nice drawing they have on the last page !
Could you rotate the laser ? Some small HeNe lasers are tubes.
I know that adjustments for optimum throughput through such a single mode fiber are extremely critical.
It could be a try and error to find the best alignement of input polarization. It does not matter if you use the slow or fast axis.
I would make a test setup doing so:
1) get a cheap pol. filter of plastic or use a pol. sun glass or pol. filter for photo. Use this as an analyzer at the output end. Look at the thoughput of the beam (at a wall) and turn the analyzer to get minimum through. Then swing or move the fiber cable and se what happens. See how much the minimum changes during this, - how sensitive the setup is to movements.
2) Rotate the laser 10 degrees, readjust foucusing. Now touch the fiber again and see if it has improved, - less sensitivity or worse
3) repeat
Worst case of misalignment of polarization is 45 degrees. So you should come to an end.
As I mentioned: a half-wave retarder plate yields an easy adjustment, since it will swing a linear polarization around. But this component is quite expensive, say 200$. They are sold as zero order plates with antiflections coatings. They are not achromatic, but should be for HeNe.
I developed fiber links for HeNe and Argon-ion laser in the early 1980 ..
With High Power Argon laser it was really some kind of a stunt. Misfocusing could lead to thermal burn away. Further we had thermal degradation of the fiber core over time (laser induced damage), when going over 10 watt. The intensity on the area is enormous. Laser induced damage was not very well understood. But it had something to do with the creation of longitudinal index variations, so that the fiber core become an interference filter sending the light back into the laser. Very funny show !
best regards
John
Samuel M. Goldwasser - 01 Dec 2008 13:15 GMT The plane of polarization will be marked on the lsaer head.
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> >Thanks for your answers > [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] > > John Jepessen - 02 Dec 2008 10:02 GMT @Mr. jk: I've tried to align polarization and fiber axis, as you can see below @Mr. Goldwasser: As you can see below, it's not easy for me to angle the optics. I'm trying to put a polarizer in the mechanical adapter to decrease the laser power, to see if in this case the effect will be reduced. @Mr: Abe: I obtain a coupling efficency of about 50%. They want to mantain the PM fiber because my boss want to have the greater power at the exit of the fiber. If I use a SM fiber, with the coupling eficency of 50%, and then I'll cut half power with a polarizer, I'll have the 25% of efficency, and they say that it's not so good.
I've taken also some photos.
Here, you can see the schematic of my laser, that's really basic:
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/6839/disegnoxg8.png
As you can see, there's only the basic things: laser, fiber, input and output coupler.
You can see here the input coupler:
http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/263/cimg1478001er8.jpg http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/2150/cimg1479002ni4.jpg
You can notice the presence of a mechanical adapter, This is necessary because the coupler must be fixated with three screws at 120°, while the laser head has four screw holes at 90° (this is always because my boss has discarder my list and has buy what he wanted :-( ).
In the first image you can see the fiber key, that's on the right. In this case, according to the datasheet, I must to have the slow axis of the fiber in vertical position, while in the second photo you can see the polarization axis of the laser, and them are aligned.
Here you can see the output coupler:
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/550/cimg1480003kt1.jpg http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/4746/cimg1481004sq1.jpg
The coupler is mounted with a positioner (because I must to align the beam, in their experiments). As you can see in the second image, I have the beam at the output of the laser, and that's the spot with oscillating power.
I've tried to say to the mechanic that we have, to create in the mechanical adapter of the input coupler, an hole to place a polarizer filter, to attenuate the laser beam, but it's not so simple, considering that I'd like to move it without toggle the coupler (in this case, I must to toggle the coupler, change the rotation of the filter, re-attach the coupler and re-align the lens, a long and tedious work).
Have you any suggestion about hot to insert the filter between the laser output and the coupler?
Thanks again
Daniele
PS: Sorry for my bad english.
jk - 02 Dec 2008 12:03 GMT >@Mr. jk: I've tried to align polarization and fiber axis, as you can >see below [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] >Have you any suggestion about hot to insert the filter between the >laser output and the coupler? Hi
I don't understand why you will put a filter between the laser and the fiber. Do you mean a retarder plate ?
I returned to your first description. You have 20% intensity fluctuations.
I think I misunderstood from the beginning. I have read it as polarization fluctuations. Polarizations should not mean anything to power throughput, provided that you do not require a linear polarization out.
The intensity fluctuations MUST be due to some mechanical instability. Remember that a stability of less than 0.5 micron is required, in traverse direction.
Further 20% intensity fluctuations is not VERY bad.
You should check beam pointing stability of that laser also. If you have a focal length af 10 mm for the lens, you must have a beam pointing stability of 0,05 mradian. Read the data sheet.
I have never used a tube-laser in that way. We always had a laser standing on an optical bench on two foots. These foots are stable mounted with the cavity of the laser. So I am unsure about thermal effects on that tube. The cavity is not very well fixed to the tube. It is maybe floating.
best regards
John
Samuel M. Goldwasser - 02 Dec 2008 13:57 GMT > >@Mr. jk: I've tried to align polarization and fiber axis, as you can > >see below [quoted text clipped - 81 lines] > effects on that tube. The cavity is not very well fixed to the tube. > It is maybe floating. The tube is mounted in 12 places with RTV or hot melt glue.
The variations seem to be related to longitudinal modes of the laser, or of the fiber. Pointing may change as the laser warms up but isn't quasi-periodic as his plots show.
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Jepessen - 03 Dec 2008 10:08 GMT > > Further 20% intensity fluctuations is not VERY bad. > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > or of the fiber. Pointing may change as the laser warms up but isn't > quasi-periodic as his plots show. So, I must to do a longer test, and see if oscillation became regulars. I'll do some test. And how I can know if oscillation are due to the pointing?
Daniele
Samuel M. Goldwasser - 04 Dec 2008 00:47 GMT > > > Further 20% intensity fluctuations is not VERY bad. > > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > regulars. I'll do some test. And how I can know if oscillation are due > to the pointing? I doubt the pointing would cause any sort of oscillation, it's just a gradual drift as it warms up.
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> Daniele Jürgen Appel - 04 Dec 2008 01:16 GMT Samuel M. Goldwasser schrieb:
>> > > Further 20% intensity fluctuations is not VERY bad. >> > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >> regulars. I'll do some test. And how I can know if oscillation are due >> to the pointing? Press gently against the device or heat it up. If it is alignment, it should change more or less continuously in power. If it is due to running in different modes you will see (rather fast, can be µs) fluctuations between distinct power levels if you look at the intensity signal on an oscilloscope during transits from one mode to another.
> I doubt the pointing would cause any sort of oscillation, it's just > a gradual drift as it warms up. I agree. Also please remove the output coupler and just measure the power coming out of the bare fiber end when you redo the test. This way you can eliminate reflexions from that coupler and be sure you are not sensitive to polarization effects.
If you still have this oscillation between two power levels, I would guess it is from backrelexions and then you have a few options: a) Optimize fiber coupling (from a nice mode like it comes out of an He-Ne, more than 65% coupling efficiency should definitely be possible) and hope that that already reduces the backreflexions enough. b) Get an isolator (pricey). c) Add an attenuator between laser and input coupler (big loss of power).
Cheers, Jürgen
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Jepessen - 10 Dec 2008 14:30 GMT Hi.
I've created another graphic, this time measuring laser output in a time range of three hours, from the start-up of the laser (it was switched off for four hours, before starting the measure, to ensure that it was cold).
This is the result
http://img216.imageshack.us/my.php?image=grhn4.gif
Sincerely, I don't know if the cause of oscillation is only backreflections, because I see oscillation variations that, as you say, they can be caused by warming of the fabry-perot.
Anyway, I've also tried to measure output power coupling the fiber with another laser, an Omnichrome argon-krypton laser (https:// shop.mellesgriot.com/products/lasers/detail.aspx?pf_id=%2035%20KAP %20431-230) that seems to have a cavity directly coupled with the ouput of the laser (I'll post some photos), and in this case it does not seem to have oscillations, even if I must capture data before say it, because the other laser is stored in another room and I must to move the computer to that room, to acquire data. I've measured the output power of the other ion-laser with another instrument, that has a sample ratio too low for my pourposes, so, before send other data to you, I want to acquire data in my way. I'll can say more when I'll have good acquired data.
For now, anyway, the major problem seems to be the laser cavity, and not the fiber. Do you agree with me?
@Appel: I've tried to put my hands over the laser tube, and I can see, effectively, that the laser sense them, as you can see in this image:
http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=grcr0.gif
If you see, at the end I've put my hands on it, and there were faster oscillations. Are they caused by warm changing? I think yes.
Sorry, but I've forgot to measure output power with the output coupler removed. I'll try it when I can.
Daniele
DM - 05 Dec 2008 19:15 GMT > @Mr. jk: I've tried to align polarization and fiber axis, as you can > see below [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > of 50%, and then I'll cut half power with a polarizer, I'll have the > 25% of efficency, and they say that it's not so good. No that is the wrong way to think about it.
1. If you launch a well polarised source into a single mode fibre, and only propagate a short distance then there is a very high probability that it come out single mode.
It does depend on what you do to the fibre along the way, if you don't perturb the fibr ethen there should not be a problem.
Alternativley you make/buy a fibre polarisaiton controller- the three plate variety work effectively. Then with a bit of playing about wht comes out of the fibre is a linear polarisation.
Even if you use a polarisation maintaining fibre, if it is perturbed significantly along the way- read bent or stressed, or subject to temperature change then you can get coupling between the orthogonal modes of the fibre.
cheers
David
Abe - 29 Nov 2008 22:50 GMT Did you match the NA of your PM fiber with the NA of the OZ collimator? What is the coupling efficiency (i.e. output of the HeNe / output of the PM fiber)? Could it be possible that some of the light was sent through the cladding? I don't trust the PM fiber either (I have seen too many projects going nowhere because people insisted on using PM fiber). I prefer using SM fiber (cheap!) in combination with a polarization controller and a polarizer (not so cheap, but if you have some in the lab that are not being used...). This setup will require regular adjustments, but at least the light will be polarized and you won't have to use the nasty PM fiber.
Abe
> Ho to everyone. > [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > > Thanks for anwers.
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