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Natural Science Forum / Biology / Paleontology / February 2008



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Bone cell remains found in Carboniferous human skull cap

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Lin Liangtai - 09 Feb 2008 09:10 GMT
The remains of the bone cells in a Carboniferous human skull cap
fossil were newly identified in a Haversian system (osteon). The bone
cells were so well-preserved that even their dendrites were clearly
seen in the canaliculi.
Detailed notes and the photo at:

http://www.wretch.cc/album/show.php?i=lin440315&b=13&f=1588634518&p=0
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 09 Feb 2008 18:20 GMT
> The remains of the bone cells in a Carboniferous human skull cap
> fossil were newly identified in a Haversian system (osteon). The bone
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>
> http://www.wretch.cc/album/show.php?i=lin440315&b=13&f=1588634518&p=0

    Now, lemme get this straight.  Was the skull cap carbonized, or was
this Fred Flinstone and his pet dog Eryops?

Steve

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rwalker - 10 Feb 2008 02:52 GMT
Lin Liangtai wrote:
>> The remains of the bone cells in a Carboniferous human skull cap
>> fossil were newly identified in a Haversian system (osteon). The bone
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>>
>> http://www.wretch.cc/album/show.php?i=lin440315&b=13&f=1588634518&p=0

No they weren't.

By the way, there are no dendrites in canaliculi.  But as you don't know
your anatomical and histological a.s from a hole in the ground, we wouldn't
expect you to know that.
Lin Liangtai - 12 Feb 2008 13:44 GMT
> Lin Liangtai wrote:
> >> Theremainsof thebonecells in aCarboniferoushumanskullcap
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> your anatomical and histological a.s from a hole in the ground, we wouldn't
> expect you to know that.

Sorry for having called you a cheat before, as you may have
unintentionally stated there was no structure or remains of fossilized
cell  in Ed's specimens. However, dare you say again there were no
lacunae, no canaliculi, no Haversian canal in that picture, although
osteocytes and their dendrites may be dead and unclear?
Lin Liangtai - 16 Feb 2008 12:20 GMT
> > Lin Liangtai wrote:
> > >> Theremainsof thebonecells in aCarboniferoushumanskullcap
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> lacunae, no canaliculi, no Haversian canal in that picture, although
> osteocytes and their dendrites may be dead and unclear?

In further reply to your denial of the existence of osteocyte in that
SEM, I have now marked an osteocyte in that SEM.
For clarity, I have marked its NUCLEUS, the osteocyte itself, its
dentritic processes, the canaliculi, and the lacuna.
The photo (same as the original one):
http://www.wretch.cc/album/show.php?i=lin440315&b=13&f=o1588634516.jpg&p=0
 
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