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For vested interest and national interest, NASA conceals most of the     micrographs of Phoenix

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Lin Liangtai - 06 Jul 2008 05:36 GMT
For vested interest and "national interest", NASA is trying to conceal
most of the micrographs taken by Mars Lander Phoenix.

NASA has not released any micrograph taken by the atomic force
microscope on board Mars Lander Phoenix.

NASA has released only three optical micrographs since NASA tested the
optical microscope on June 4,and reported no problem with the
microscope. Most of the micrographs taken by Phoenix have not been
released yet.

Could NASA be trying to avoid the discovery of fossils on Mars? I
suspected so,  long before NASA blocked me from its website. I
expected so, long before I wrote a google message entitled "NASA tries
to wrap fire with paper".

By now it should be clear to all keen observers why NASA repeatedly
reminded people that Phoenix was not equipped to detect life, past or
present and  was not aimed to detect life. Any detection of past life
should pass the strictest test of denial by anyone.

Who stands to benefit from failure to find life on Mars? NASA's vested
interest does.  NASA is convinced that the failure is in the national
interest. Believe it or not, in the next few days/weeks, NASA will
convince the highest national leader that NASA should not reveal all
the micrographs taken  by Phoenix. Mars Rovers Opportunity and Spirit
have released all their micrographs directly, without prior screening
by NASA. Now NASA thinks persons like "i" could use the Phoenix
microgragraphs to cheat the world into  believing there was past life
on Mars and such persons could jeopardize American national interest
with naked truth. Mr. Bush and the general public could very possibly
believe NASA. Who cares about God and its naked truth?
Matt - 08 Jul 2008 15:15 GMT
> For vested interest and "national interest", NASA is trying to conceal
> most of the micrographs taken by Mars Lander Phoenix.

I've avoided responding to this gentleman's posts, which argue the
absurd notion that everywhere NASA has explored Mars it's found
fossils.  (That implies the entire planet is essentially covered with
them).  I can't resist, however, tweaking the notion that NASA would
conceal such evidence.  Such evidence would ensure a major increase in
NASA's budget for robotic and human exploration of Mars, perhaps for
for decades to come. Nor would concealment be in the national
interest: the United States would have scored the greatest scientific
coup of all time.  NASA held a press conference to discuss possible
(disputed) evidence for Martian life in a meteorite: the airwaves and
the internet would be filled 24/7 with NASA scientists and
spokespeople if definite Martian fossils ever turned up.
The absence of a NASA response reinforces the notion that, if all the
interested geologists on Earth have looked at these pictures and
noticed no fossils, they are probably right.
professorgunz - 08 Jul 2008 21:29 GMT
>> For vested interest and "national interest", NASA is trying to conceal
>> most of the micrographs taken by Mars Lander Phoenix.
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> interested geologists on Earth have looked at these pictures and
> noticed no fossils, they are probably right.

I confess (I will deny it if confronted) that I love to browse this sort
of stuff.  I don't believe it for any number of reasons, both biological
and simply logical without the "bio-," but it is a lot of fun to try to
see what someone else thinks they are seeing.  But in the case of these
fossil Martian body parts, for the most part, I can't see a bloody
thing.  Fossilized lymph nodes lying around?  What would that even
_look_ like?  How on Earth (or Mars) could you tell? And if you can
preserve tings like loose lymph nodes, blood vessels, and random lonely
Haversian canals, wouldn't the _bones_ be preserved?
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 09 Jul 2008 14:47 GMT
>>> For vested interest and "national interest", NASA is trying to conceal
>>> most of the micrographs taken by Mars Lander Phoenix.
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> preserve tings like loose lymph nodes, blood vessels, and random lonely
> Haversian canals, wouldn't the _bones_ be preserved?

    I picked up on the lymph nodes too.  I hope the frozen sections came
out OK.  Ditto the Haversian canals.
Back when they advertised cigarettes on television, there was a
commercial for Viceroy cigarettes.  The patient was being shown a
variety of Rorschach blots.  Every one was viewed as a man doing
something "...and smoking a Viceroy".
"I'm afraid"  the psychiatrist said, with a voice right out of central
casting for a Freud biography, "...you hef a feexation on Viceroy Longks!"
"I don't know," said the patient,  "they're YOUR Viceroy pictures!"

Steve
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Lin Liangtai - 09 Jul 2008 09:30 GMT
> > For vested interest and "national interest", NASA is trying to conceal
> > most of the micrographs taken by Mars Lander Phoenix.
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> interested geologists on Earth have looked at these pictures and
> noticed no fossils, they are probably right.

Let an anatomist/pathologist/cell biologist, not a geologist,  say I
am wrong. No such people (anatomists) have ever said I wrong about
fossils on Mars.
Cj - 09 Jul 2008 15:14 GMT
>>> For vested interest and "national interest", NASA is trying to conceal
>>> most of the micrographs taken by Mars Lander Phoenix.
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> am wrong. No such people (anatomists) have ever said I wrong about
> fossils on Mars.

That's even more stupid than human fossils in coal.   Are you trying for
some kind of lunatic record?
 
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