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Dinosaurs suffer brain death if evolved into birds' RBC's

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Fossil Lin - 26 Jun 2009 14:41 GMT
Dinosaurs will suffer brain death in 7 minutes if their RBC’s evolved
into birds’ RBC’s.

Humans become brain dead if red blood cells (RBC’s) don’t carry
enough
oxygen to human brain.
Every hour a human being produces and destroys hundreds of millions
of
RBC’s. If some dinosaurs dared to try “evolving” their mammalian
RBC’s
into birds’ RBC’s, they will suffer brain death in seven minutes like
humans, as birds’ RBC’s cannot deform to pass through the capillaries
in the brain of the dinosaur.
John Harshman - 26 Jun 2009 15:52 GMT
> Dinosaurs will suffer brain death in 7 minutes if their RBC’s evolved
> into birds’ RBC’s.
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> humans, as birds’ RBC’s cannot deform to pass through the capillaries
> in the brain of the dinosaur.

Stick with rocks, that's my advice. Dinosaurs presumably had the same
kind of red blood cells as birds (i.e. with nuclei), as do crocodiles,
lizards, frogs, and in fact all vertebrates other than mammals.
Fossil Lin - 27 Jun 2009 03:44 GMT
On 6月26日, 下午10時52分, John Harshman <jharshman.diespam...@pacbell.net>
wrote:
> > Dinosaurs will suffer brain death in 7 minutes if their RBC’s evolved
> > into birds’ RBC’s.
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> kind of red blood cells as birds (i.e. with nuclei), as do crocodiles,
> lizards, frogs, and in fact all vertebrates other than mammals.

You know little about red blood cells. I have read a 300-page book
focusing on hematolgoy and blood cells. You still cannot tell the
difference between birds' and mammals' red blood cells. Learn
something about blood cells before babbling and presuming "Dinosaurs
presumably had the same
kind of red blood cells as birds"
John Harshman - 27 Jun 2009 14:52 GMT
> On 6月26日, 下午10時52分, John Harshman <jharshman.diespam...@pacbell.net>
> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> presumably had the same
> kind of red blood cells as birds"

I can easily tell the difference. Birds (and most vertebrates) have
nuclei, and mammals don't. Isn't this stated somewhere in your 300-page
book? You haven't explained what's wrong with my claim.
deowll - 01 Jul 2009 00:07 GMT
>> On 6月26日, 下午10時52分, John Harshman
>> <jharshman.diespam...@pacbell.net>
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
> nuclei, and mammals don't. Isn't this stated somewhere in your 300-page
> book? You haven't explained what's wrong with my claim.

I think the camal does not that I exactly care.
John Harshman - 01 Jul 2009 00:30 GMT
>>> On 6月26日, 下午10時52分, John Harshman
>>> <jharshman.diespam...@pacbell.net>
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
>
> I think the camal does not that I exactly care.

Could you rephrase in English?
Tim McGaughy - 27 Jun 2009 15:49 GMT
> On 6月26日, 下午10時52分, John Harshman <jharshman.diespam...@pacbell.net>
> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> presumably had the same
> kind of red blood cells as birds"

Learn something about dinosaurs and mammals before babbling and
presuming that dinosaurs are mammals.
panamfloyd@hotmail.com - 27 Jun 2009 18:48 GMT
News flash! Man uses sh.t-for brains! Full story at eleven on Action
News 8!!

> On 6月26日, 下午10時52分, John Harshman <jharshman.diespam...@pacbell.net>
> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
> You know little about red blood cells.

He seems to know more than you do, based upon your ridiculous OP.

> I have read a 300-page book
> focusing on hematolgoy and blood cells.

And seem not to have learned a damned thing from it.

> You still cannot tell the
> difference between birds' and mammals' red blood cells. Learn
> something about blood cells before babbling and presuming "Dinosaurs
> presumably had the same
> kind of red blood cells as birds"

For someone as dumb as *you* to say someone else is "babbling" is the
height of irony.

-Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
aa#2015/Member, Knights of BAAWA!
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 29 Jun 2009 17:40 GMT
> Stick with rocks, that's my advice. Dinosaurs presumably had the same
> kind of red blood cells as birds (i.e. with nuclei), as do crocodiles,
> lizards, frogs, and in fact all vertebrates other than mammals.

    I'm more than a bit embarrassed to say I didn't know that most
vertebrates had nucleated erythrocytes.  I must have slept through my
comparative hematology class.  ;-)

Thanks,
Steve

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Fossil Lin - 01 Jul 2009 04:34 GMT
On Jun 30, 12:40 am, Mark & Steven Bornfeld
<bornfeldm...@dentaltwins.com> wrote:

> > Stick with rocks, that's my advice.Dinosaurspresumably had thesame
> >kindofredbloodcellsas birds (i.e. with nuclei), as do crocodiles,
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> vertebrates had nucleated erythrocytes.  I musthaveslept through my
> comparative hematology class.  ;-)
Hi, Doctor, you are my savior. You have corrected me a couple of times
in the past. Now correct me again if the following were not mammalian
red blood cells.
http://www.wretch.cc/album/show.php?i=lin440315&b=12&f=1881203611&p=23

http://www.wretch.cc/album/show.php?i=lin440315&b=12&f=1881203612&p=24

Thank you, Steve.
Lin Liangtai

> Thanks,
> Steve
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Brooklyn, NY
> 718-258-5001
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 01 Jul 2009 19:50 GMT
> On Jun 30, 12:40 am, Mark & Steven Bornfeld
> <bornfeldm...@dentaltwins.com> wrote:
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>> Brooklyn, NY
>> 718-258-5001

    If you need me as a savior, you have bigger problems than erythrocytes.
 I'm not an expert on erythrocytes, though I certainly have seen enough
human erythrocytes through a microscope.  Those aren't human
erythrocytes.  I'll stick my neck out (the photomicrograph is not
exactly in good focus) and say those do look like nuclei in them there
cells.

Steve

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Fossil Lin - 06 Jul 2009 08:36 GMT
On Jul 2, 2:50 am, Mark & Steven Bornfeld
<bornfeldm...@dentaltwins.com> wrote:
> > On Jun 30, 12:40 am, Mark & Steven Bornfeld
> > <bornfeldm...@dentaltwins.com> wrote:
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>
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Dr. Steve, the following is an SEM of erythrocytes leaving broken
blood vessels. Are they not mammalian RBC's ?
Fossil Lin - 06 Jul 2009 08:38 GMT
> On Jul 2, 2:50 am, Mark & Steven Bornfeld
>
[quoted text clipped - 44 lines]
> Dr. Steve, the following is an SEM of erythrocytes leaving broken
> blood vessels.

http://www.wretch.cc/album/show.php?i=lin440315&b=12&f=1881251766&p=33

Were they mammalian or non-mammalian RBC's ?
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John Harshman - 06 Jul 2009 14:25 GMT
>> On Jul 2, 2:50 am, Mark & Steven Bornfeld
>>
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>
> Were they mammalian or non-mammalian RBC's ?

Time to learn the difference between a scanning electron microscope and
a transmission light microscope.
Tim McGaughy - 26 Jun 2009 16:52 GMT
> RBC’s. If some dinosaurs dared to try “evolving” their mammalian
> RBC’s

Dinosaurs weren't mammals.
Smiler - 27 Jun 2009 01:05 GMT
>> RBC’s. If some dinosaurs dared to try “evolving” their mammalian
>> RBC’s
>
> Dinosaurs weren't mammals.

Maybe the 'Martian' ones were mammals :-)

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