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Natural Science Forum / Biology / Paleontology / March 2004Chicken and egg Answer?
http://www.newhumanist.org.uk/fifthcolumn.php Howdy and hummmm... If we're asking about "chicken" versus "chicken egg", no matter what criteria we use to distinguish "a chicken", there was as some point a very first chicken, the offspring of two birds that were not chickens. Since the parents were not chickens, then the egg from which the first chicken hatched was not a chicken egg. So it really seems from this viewpoint that the chicken came first. Regardz, Ken - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Ken Leonard ken_leonard@NOSPAM.earthlink.net [Edit it to make it work.] > Howdy and hummmm... > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Ken Leonard > ken_leonard@NOSPAM.earthlink.net [Edit it to make it work.] That's only true if you define chicken egg as A:'an egg that comes out of a chicken'. But you could also define chicken egg as B:'an egg from which a chicken comes out'. So, A: mom and dad are not chickens, egg is not a chicken egg, but hatchling is a chicken - chicken comes first. Or, B: mom and dad are not chickens, but egg contains chicken embryo - egg comes first. > > Howdy and hummmm... > > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > hatchling is a chicken - chicken comes first. > Or, B: mom and dad are not chickens, but egg contains chicken embryo - egg Under the second definition all the eggs we buy are not chicken eggs as they are sterile and no chicken wil come out of them. Also if at some point genetic research used chicken eggs to develop human embryos then they would be human eggs?? >> > Howdy and hummmm... >> > [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.600 / Virus Database: 381 - Release Date: 28/02/04 Good points. As for sterile chicken eggs, let us come up with a new classification to distinguish them from the others. Let us call it "breakfast". For human embryos incubated in a chicken egg? I guess they would be human if they turned out human, as the case with test tube babies. Otherwise a new name would probably be a applied ... e.g. mutant, franken-chicken, man-chicken or man-with-bird-affinities. > >> > Howdy and hummmm... > >> > [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > Otherwise a new name would probably be a applied ... e.g. mutant, > franken-chicken, man-chicken or man-with-bird-affinities. Franken-chicken definetely! "jusuk" <JusUK@travel-diary.deSPAM> wrote in news:AEI2c.1614$7g5.819 @newsfe3-win.server.ntli.net: >> For human embryos incubated in a chicken egg? I guess they would be >> human if they turned out human, as the case with test tube babies. >> Otherwise a new name would probably be a applied ... e.g. mutant, >> franken-chicken, man-chicken or man-with-bird-affinities. > > Franken-chicken definetely! hehee, I thought about it and maybe "fowl-blooded man" would be more politically correct. |
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