> From: "tinroad66" <tinroad66>
>Subject: Valid Interpretations was Re: Leon aunt's
leg
>> >> And you could not determined I was talking about
>> the
>> >> subject at hand? If I was looking at the fossil
>> >> record, why would I add oceanography?
>> >>
>> >> this an anolog to your aunt leg illustration.
>> >
>> >Leon: No it's not, and my criticism was aimed at
your
>> >assertion on
>> >its face. "ANYthing" CANNOT be inferred from
>> >observation!"
>>
>> that is incorrect, within reason. the anology of
your
>> aunts leg would make me a fortune teller. in
science
>> it would make me a kook. in science it seems you
can
>> make certain inferrence on little data, such as it
is
>> done in evolution. But is it correct?
>> of course not, It would cease to be an inferrence
or
>> speculation, and it would become a fact which can
be
>> proven by a body of peers.
>
>Tin: It is very common for anti-evos too simply
assert that evo is
>one of many "interpretations" of the evidence, that
are presumably
>equally valid. But when challenged to provide the
interpretation of
>the evidence, they are strangely silent. A couple of
particulars:
>1) explain why the fossil record starts with one
billion years of
>nothing but bacteria;
>
>2) explain the sorting of the hominid fossils
>
>Hominid Evolution:
>Sahelanthropus tchadensis (320?380cc), ca. 6-7mya.
>Ardipithecus ramidus (dental and postcranial
remains), ca. 5-6mya.
>Orrorin turgenesis (postcranial), ca. 5mya.
>Australopithecus anamensis (cranial capacity
unknown), ca. 4.9-
5.2mya.
>A. afarensis (mean of 470cc, range 375-540cc), ca.
3.8-2.8mya.
>A. bahrelghazali (cranial capacity unknown), ca.
2.8-3.2mya.
>A. africanus (440-480cc), ca. 2.2-2.6mya.
>A. garhi (c. 450cc), ca. 2.3-2.6mya.
>A. robustus (c. 475cc), ca. 1.4-1.8mya.
>A. boisei (c. 450cc), ca. 1.2-1.8mya.
>A. aethiopicus (c. 410cc), ca. 2-2.4mya.
>H. habilis (c. 500-800cc), ca. 1.8-2.1mya.
>H. ergaster (c. 1100-1434), ca. 1.3-1.8mya.
>H. erectus (c. 725-1250cc), ca.250kya. - 1.3mya.
>H. heidelbergensis (c. 1300cc), ca. 300-170kya
>H. neanderthalensis (c. 1350-1600cc), ca. 200-35kya.
>H. sapiens (c.1300-1500cc), ca. 170kya-present
>
>3) explain why:
> flowering plants are sorted above non-flowering
plants
> bees with pollen baskets aren't found until after
flowering plants
> fish with jaws are sorted above jawless fish
> virtually all dinosaurs are found at or below the
KT boundary
>4) why life is organized into a nested hierarchy;
>
>5) why there are so many examples of dumb biological
design (like
>putting the retina in backwards).
>
> If you are like Laurie you will respond with raw
lies like "IS
>NOT!".
That is because you loop anti-evolutionist into one
group called
creationist of the 6day quickie latterday saints.
But I do not play ball with that club.
There is no doubt that the creature you called
homonids existed.
but were they product of evolution?
can this be duplicated via the scientific method?
Has this process been observed in realtime?
Mikey Brass - 20 May 2004 15:26 GMT
>> From: "tinroad66" <tinroad66>
>>Subject: Valid Interpretations was Re: Leon aunt's
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> There is no doubt that the creature you called
> homonids existed.
That's "hominid" and it refers to a taxonomic family, not a creature.
> but were they product of evolution?
Yes, but I am not surprised you aren't familiar with the evidence with
you don't even know taxonomic terminology.

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JaBrIoL - 20 May 2004 21:41 GMT
> >> From: "tinroad66" <tinroad66>
> >>Subject: Valid Interpretations was Re: Leon aunt's
[quoted text clipped - 101 lines]
> Yes, but I am not surprised you aren't familiar with the evidence with
> you don't even know taxonomic terminology.
picky with grammar are we?
please present the evidence, and then tell us how can we use the
scientific method to verify the evidence.