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CurtAdams wrote: Wow, this is the first time Marc has flat-out lied about
what I said (as opposed to changing the subject). Do I win a prize?
Rich Travsky: You must be new here ;)
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> : > Ancient African Skull Fills Gap, Fuels Debate
> : > Sarah Graham
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> As an aside I'd like to know the heights of Great Grandma William's kids -
> was there great variation between her kids or all were short or?
Great variation in height. My grandmother was at least average height but
some of the kids and grandkids were short. Of course her husband was about
normal height.
> Anyway. From some previous discussions here it seems that prior to
> 70,000 - ish years ago Neanderthals were quite variable and after that time
> the Neanderthals were (sadly) more or less typecast. Maybe something
> changed in their mobility or their habitat which made mobility more
> possible and with more exchanges of genes they got to be more uniform in
> physical attributes.
To me what gets a uniform population is strong selection. You don't get
uniformity without strong selection even in small populations.
> Could the same kind of thing apply to the Homo erectus? While wide-spread
> they were often isolated and extreme variations were possible until
> "Something Happened" to increase their mobility and ability to reproduce
> with others of their kind and so on to a more uniform appearance?
I don't think they were uniform. The uniformity is in the heads of people
that look at sub populations and say this is a species.
> When I saw "Getting to Know Homo erectus" in Science I grabbed coffee and
> thought I'd finally be able to have that information pulled together but
> having Schwartz say that Home erectus may be more of a "historical accident
> than a biological reality . . ." well, I could have gotten tea.
>
> Jois
I'd say it was the genus Homo between habilis and sapians. Trying to shove
it into a smaller package than that doesn't seem to match up with what the
nuclear DNA seems to be saying about at least some regional continuation.