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Natural Science Forum / Biology / Paleontology / September 2004Physical Evidence the Death of Evolution
I have decided, after much soul-searching, to sweeten the pot in my challenge to debate all three of the world's foremost authorities on evolution at the same time during an hour-long live, prime-time TV network program. < To try and even the playing field, I even agree to do so with one hand tied behind my back. < Ed Conrad > http://www.edconrad.com Man as Old as Coal < >====================================== PETRIFIED BONES, TEETH AND SOFT ORGANS (SOME HUMAN) FOUND BETWEEN COAL VEINS >====================================== PETRIFIED FINGER AND TOE: > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Au29/MVC-016S.JPG ======================================= THE VERY FIRST DISCOVERY IN JUNE 1981 > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith1/first.jpg < PREMOLAR TOOTH FOUND INSIDE JAW-LIKE AREA > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-014S.JPG < FAVORABLE TESTING OF PREMOLAR TOOTH > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/coalbones/graph.gif > http://edconrad.com/ebay/Newpix3/result.gif > http://edconrad.com/oldascoal/images/z1.jpg > http://edconrad.com/oldascoal/images/compatible.gif < ============================================ PETRIFIED HUMAN CALVARIUM (PART OF SKULL) > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/z11calv.jpg > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/krogwskull.jpg > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/MVC-006S.JPG > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/MVC-007S.JPG This specimen was identified by Wilton Krogman, one of the worlds foremost human anatomists and author of the book, "The Human Skeleton in Forensic Medicine." CATSCAN TEST ON CALVARIUM > http://www.edconrad.com/images/catcalv.jpg American Medical Laboratories tested this specimem using calculus analysis by crystallography and found "a composition of dried blood intermingled with a few small crystals resembling calcium oxalate dihydrate." < OFFICIAL LABORATORY REPORT > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/AML/MVC-012S.JPG ============================================ < > ANOTHER PETRIFIED HUMAN SKULL (IN A BOULDER) > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/skulla.jpg > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/skullb.jpg > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith1/other1.jpg > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/z2_2.jpg HAVERSIAN CANALS EXIST IN SKULL IN THE BOULDER > http://www.edconrad.com/oldascoal/images/proof1.jpg < ============================================ < PETRIFIED HUMAN FEMUR > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/z6femur.jpg > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/z8femur.jpg > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith1/z7femur.jpg > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Spec/MVC-001S.JPG < ========================================== PORTION OF A PETRIFIED TIBIA > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/newtibia.jpg > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/fossil/z15tib2.jpg > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/fossil/z15tib1.jpg SEM COMPARES SPECIMEN WITH BONE AT 2,000X > http://edconrad.com/oldascoal/images/bones.jpg HAVERSIAN CANALS IN PETRIFIED TIBIA > http://edconrad.com/canals/slide1.jpg > http://www.edconrad.com/canals/0505160x.jpg Additionally, American Medical Laboratories performed calculus analysis by crystallography and determined that it "consisted predominately of dried blood and protein." > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/AML/MVC-006S.JPG ========================================== PETRIFIED GALL BLADDER, CONTAINING GALLSTONE > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/z5gall.jpg A CatSCAN revealed it contains a gall stone Another favorable testing result on gall bladder > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/AML/MVC-010S.JPG ========================================== HEMISPHERE OF PETRIFIED HUMAN BRAIN > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/brain/MVC-001S.JPG > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/brain/MVC-002S.JPG > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/brain/MVC-003S.JPG > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/brain/MVC-004S.JPG > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/brain/MVC-005S.JPG > > PETRIFIED HUMAN LUNG > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-015S.JPG > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-016S.JPG > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-017S.JPG > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-018S.JPG > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-019S.JPG PETRIFIED HUMAN MANDIBLES (JAW BONES) > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Bones/MVC-006S.JPG > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Bones/MVC-003S.JPG > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Bones/MVC-011S.JPG < < PETRIFIED HUMAN MANDIBLE (FRONTAL) Here's another petrified hominid jaw, the frontal portion. Inclusions are embedded in it, possibly teeth or even part of the tongue. > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Newpix5/MVC-002S.JPG > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Newpix5/MVC-001S.JPG > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Newpix5/MVC-003S.JPG > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Newpix5/MVC-004S.JPG > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Newpix5/MVC-005S.JPG > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Newpix5/MVC-006S.JPG PAIR OF PETRIFIED FETUSES (ONE STILL IN SLATE) > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-010S.JPG > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-011S.JPG > > PORTION OF PETRIFIED DINOSAUR FOOT IN SLATE > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Newpix3/z3dino.jpg > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-013S.JPG HANDCRAFTED WOODEN TOOL TURNED TO COAL > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-001S.JPG > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-002S.JPG > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-004S.JPG > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-003S.JPG > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-005S.JPG GIANT CANINE TOOTH > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Petrified/1tooth.jpg > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Vel1/MVC-009S.JPG > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Vel1/MVC-008S.JPG > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Vel1/MVC-006S.JPG > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Vel1/MVC-010S.JPG PORTION OF GIANT PETRIFIED SCORPION > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Scorpion/MVC-001S.JPG > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Scorpion/MVC-022S.JPG > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Scorpion/MVC-020S.JPG > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Scorpion/MVC-008S.JPG > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Scorpion/MVC-017S.JPG > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/fossilxx/MVC-006S.JPG > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Scorpion/MVC-021S.JPG > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Scorpion/MVC-009S.JPG > > PETRIFIED EGGS > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/AML/MVC-021F.JPG > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/AML/MVC-022F.JPG > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/AML/MVC-023F.JPG > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/AML/MVC-024F.JPG DINOSAUR FOOT EMBEDDED IN SLATE > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/z3dino.jpg > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/fossilxx/Dfoot.jpg > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/fossil/MVC-039S.JPG > > MYSERIOUS SPECIMEN EMBEDDED IN SLATE > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/coalbones/inslate1.jpg > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/coalbones/inslate5.jpg > > THREE INTRIGUING SPECIMENS > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Vel1/MVC-004S.JPG > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Vel1/MVC-005S.JPG TWO SIMILIAR SPECIMENS FOUND 25 MILES APART > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/fossilx/MVC-016S.JPG > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/fossilx/MVC-017S.JPG INFORMATION ABOUT PETRIFIED BONES > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/brain/textbook.gif > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Newpix3/thefactthat.gif =========================================== < YERKES CONFIRMS SPECIMEN IS INDEED BONE One of the specimens was positively identified as petrified bone by the Yerkes Regional Primate Research Center at Emory University in Atlanta, Ga., which bone expert Wilton Krogman described as "the most prestigious institution of its kind in the world." < Jeremy Dahl, one of its bone experts who examined and tested it, even put it in writing and signed his name, also making a drawing of the specimen that he had examined and tested.. < > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/YERKES1.TIF > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/YERKES2.TIF > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/YERKES3.TIF ============================================ RAYMOND DART IMPRESSED The late, great Raymond Dart, MD., examined some of the specimens after Krogman informed him about them. This photo shows Dart holding what Krogman identified as a calvarium, a human cranium with the eye sockets broken off. > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/fossilx/dart.jpg < RAYMOND DART'S LETTER > 28 October, 1983 > Dear Mr. Conrad: > > This is being written as a follow-up to our meeting here in > Philadelphia on Saturday, Oct. 15, during which I had the > opportunity to examine many of the rock-like objects you > had discovered in the coal fields of Pennsylvania, near > Shenandoah. > In my opinion, the vast majority bear the contour of bone >and well may be petrified bone. > > I was particularly intrigued by one of your specimens which > I agree bears a distinct resemblance to a dainosaur head > or a hominid skullcap, heavily petrified. > > Based on our vast ignorance about volcanology, as regards > both anatomy and anthropology, I am of the opinion that your > findings definitely warrant intense investigation by that subject's > foremost experts, especially here in America where so many > volcanic disturbances occur even today. > Yours sincerely, > Raymond A. Dart (signed) > > Raymond A. Dart, M.D. > Institute of Man > The Institutes for the Achievement of Human Potential > 8801 Stenton Avenue > Philadelphia, Pa. 19118 PHOTO OF ED CONRAD WITH RAYMOND DART> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/coalbones/wdart.jpg PETRIFIED BONES IN GIANT SLAB OF SLATE > http://mysite.verizon.net/edconrad/NewFossils/MVC-002S.JPG > http://mysite.verizon.net/edconrad/NewFossils/MVC-003S.JPG > http://mysite.verizon.net/edconrad/NewFossils/MVC-004S.JPG > http://mysite.verizon.net/edconrad/NewFossils/MVC-005S.JPG > http://mysite.verizon.net/edconrad/NewFossils/MVC-006S.JPG > http://mysite.verizon.net/edconrad/NewFossils/MVC-007S.JPG > http://mysite.verizon.net/edconrad/NewFossils/MVC-008S.JPG > http://mysite.verizon.net/edconrad/NewFossils/MVC-009S.JPG > http://mysite.verizon.net/edconrad/NewFossils/MVC-010S.JPG > http://mysite.verizon.net/edconrad/NewFossils/MVC-011S.JPG > http://mysite.verizon.net/edconrad/NewFossils/MVC-012S.JPG CONSPIRACY AGAINST IMMANUEL VELIKOVSKY > http://edconrad.com/ebay/Petrifiedx/MVC-010S.JPG > http://edconrad.com/ebay/Petrifiedx/MVC-011S.JPG HOW DARWIN FELT ABOUT EVOLUTION OF THE EYE > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/truth/tosuppose.gif TRUTH BOUND TO CATCH UP WITH FICTION > http://edconrad.com/canals/hooton.gif CONSPIRACY AGAINST TRUTH -- AND MANKIND > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/coalbones/edyournot.gif ONE HONEST NEWSPAPER'S HEADLINE > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Vel1/MVC-001S.JPG > I have decided, after much soul-searching, to sweeten the pot > in my challenge to debate all three of the world's foremost [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Man as Old as Coal They won't (evolutionists) debate you Ed because they can't, and they don't want to look like they are promoting pseudoscience. Haven't you noticed they ignore all your posts. Go figure. It's like that George guy with his 'gravity equals God' (all he has proven is how gravity affects the brain really) so-called proof, he doesn't respond to my replies to his posts either, but he does respond to those who insult him and reply with all sorts of foolishness though. I'll bet you Ed that no evolutionist will ever debate you, and neither will they even look at the evidence. It is safer to do that, by ignoring a claim, makes it seem that the claim is invalid - by the silence. And as I have said before they aren't fooling anyone, except themselves. > From: Imperishable Stars <belt@of.orion> > They won't (evolutionists) debate you Ed because they can't, and they > don't want to look like they are promoting pseudoscience. Haven't you > noticed they ignore all your posts. Go figure. Yeah, it's Ed's proof of life after death: a dead pope appearing to two buried coal miners. Go figure how people could ignore such scientific evidence ;-) >> From: Imperishable Stars <belt@of.orion> > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > buried coal miners. Go figure how people could ignore such scientific > evidence ;-) An apparition appearing to two seperate minds is a miracle that cannot be explained by science,I'd say it is evidence to be carefully considered,scientifically speaking of course. > >> From: Imperishable Stars <belt@of.orion> > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > explained by science,I'd say it is evidence to be carefully > considered,scientifically speaking of course. You wouldn't recognize scientific evidence, "Mad". > >> From: Imperishable Stars <belt@of.orion> > >> They won't (evolutionists) debate you Ed because they can't, and they > >> don't want to look like they are promoting pseudoscience. Haven't you > >> noticed they ignore all your posts. Go figure. > > Yeah, it's Ed's proof of life after death: a dead pope appearing to two > > buried coal miners. Go figure how people could ignore such scientific > > evidence ;-) > An apparition appearing to two seperate minds is a miracle that cannot be > explained by science,I'd say it is evidence to be carefully > considered,scientifically speaking of course. How many people were at Jonestown? How many in Heaven's Gate? >> I have decided, after much soul-searching, to sweeten the pot >> in my challenge to debate all three of the world's foremost [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >evolutionist will ever debate you, and neither will they even look at >the evidence. That's true because there is no creation evidence. >It is safer to do that, by ignoring a claim, makes it >seem that the claim is invalid - by the silence. And as I have said >before they aren't fooling anyone, except themselves. Nobody takes creation seriously. -Barry ======== Web page: http://members.iinet.net.au/~barry.og Atheist, radio scanner, LIPD information. > > I have decided, after much soul-searching, to sweeten the pot > > in my challenge to debate all three of the world's foremost [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > seem that the claim is invalid - by the silence. And as I have said > before they aren't fooling anyone, except themselves. I debated Ed once, and he lost. But I'd debate him again. get a hobby, conrad. if anything is proof of the death of evolution, it's you. > get a hobby, conrad. if anything is proof of the death of evolution, it's > you. Yeah, you Harry beast, you. ;-) > I have decided, after much soul-searching, to sweeten the pot > in my challenge to debate all three of the world's foremost [quoted text clipped - 277 lines] > ONE HONEST NEWSPAPER'S HEADLINE > > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Vel1/MVC-001S.JPG Your hands aren't your problem, it's your seriously whacked out brain that's the problem... BDK >I have decided, after much soul-searching, to sweeten the pot >in my challenge to debate all three of the world's foremost >authorities on evolution at the same time during an hour-long >live, prime-time TV network program. I doubt anyone would bother. Nobody takes creation seriously. >To try and even the playing field, I even agree to do so with one >hand tied behind my back. >< >Ed Conrad >> http://www.edconrad.com -Barry ======== Web page: http://members.iinet.net.au/~barry.og Atheist, radio scanner, LIPD information. "Atheism Crusher" <atheist@fools.com> wrote in message news:... >>> From: Imperishable Stars <belt@of.orion> >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > explained by science,I'd say it is evidence to be carefully > considered,scientifically speaking of course. |
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