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Natural Science Forum / Biology / Paleontology / October 2004Be thankful
Concentrate your heart and life upon the Christ life and glory, and you will no longer fear anything. Be thankful, for thankfulness also casts out all fear. Be thankful, and remember that your Father in heaven knows your needs and all you need will be supplied. Thank you and amen. The Proverbist had it right: "When wisdom enters into your heart and knowledge itself becomes pleasant to your very soul, thinking ability itself will keep guard over you and discernment itself will guard over you to deliver you from the bad way, from the man speaking perverse things, from those leaving the paths of uprightness to walk in the ways of darkness" (Prov. 2:10-12, quoted from NWT for courtesy to JW readers - and because there is no evidence of doctrinal tinkering.) > Concentrate your heart and life upon the Christ life and glory, and > you will no longer fear anything. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Be thankful, and remember that your Father in heaven knows your needs > and all you need will be supplied. > Concentrate your heart and life upon the Christ life and glory, and > you will no longer fear anything. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Be thankful, and remember that your Father in heaven knows your needs > and all you need will be supplied. ===================== Tell that to the starving and diseased people in Africa.  SignatureJoan... "Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived." -= Isaac Asimov =- >> Concentrate your heart and life upon the Christ life and glory, and >> you will no longer fear anything. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > ===================== > Tell that to the starving and diseased people in Africa. Man brought death to the world and suffering its our fault..also consequences for our actions is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived because you want to sin but not fear the consequences from a just and holly GOD. Actually there are no atheists to say there isn't a god is an absolute statement if you don't know whats farther than we can see or reach in space or whatever we cant understand then you really don't know and if reasonable will have to admit that you don't think he is there with your currant knowledge but are not sure..really you or they are agnostics you just don't know.. > >> Concentrate your heart and life upon the Christ life and glory, and > >> you will no longer fear anything. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Man brought death to the world and suffering its our fault.. ** Get realistic - everything dies. Genes brought death into the world, not man. also > consequences for our actions is the most potent force for atheism ever > conceived because you want to sin but not fear the consequences from a just > and holly GOD. ** What sins do I want to commit? Speak for yourself and your own guilt ridden conscience. God? Which God? There are thousands of them spread over thousands of religions, cults and sects. Actually there are no atheists to say there isn't a god is an > absolute statement if you don't know whats farther than we can see or reach > in space or whatever we cant understand then you really don't know ** Seeing is believing and no one I knew ever saw any of these Gods or Goddesses. and if > reasonable will have to admit that you don't think he is there with your > currant knowledge but are not sure..really you or they are agnostics you > just don't know.. ** And it doesn't matter since he/she/it has no effect on humanity. Everything continues on as it always has - wars, murder, rape..... SignatureJoan.... Here you will find clinical studies proving that the Jehovah's Witnesses exhibit rates of mental illness between four and forty times the average for the population at large: http://google.com/groups?selm=D3J0QI5Z38234.4565046296@anonymous.poster ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> Concentrate your heart and life upon the Christ life and glory, and >> >> you will no longer fear anything. [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > ** And it doesn't matter since he/she/it has no effect on humanity. > Everything continues on as it always has - wars, murder, rape..... ** Get realistic - everything dies. Genes brought death into the world, > not man. <<<Well how did the genes get here.? oh the nothing that blew up and created stuff.. AND you are wrong man did bring death into the world..through sin.. What sins do I want to commit? Speak for yourself and your own guilt > ridden conscience. God? Which God? There are thousands of them spread > over thousands of religions, cults and sects. <<<1st. Have you ever lied well then you are a liar it only takes one. have you ever stolen anything no matter the size or value then you're a thief. ever took GOD's holly name in vein then you have blasphemed that one wont be forgiven..ever lookedwith lust JESUS said if you look at a women with lust you have committed adultery with her in your heart already..have you looked with lust.?? all have sinned you know that.. <<<There is only one true GOD you will stand before him after you have died and will be judged for every thing you have ever thought said done even in private.you can tell me how wrong you think I am but you will see you must be able to see the design and know there is GOD and if you haven't been saved from your sin and forgiven by GOD you will be sent to hell I pray that you do get saved..you Don't have to believe in the wind but that want stop it from blowing you off of a cliff.......... your anger want help it to not be true. Seeing is believing and no one I knew ever saw any of these Gods or Goddesses. <<Have you ever saw the wind? or gravity? they must not be real..right? And it doesn't matter since he/she/it has no effect on humanity. > Everything continues on as it always has - wars, murder, rape..... <<The BIBLE says people will scoff in the last days.. and say things are going just as they always have....... you proved it right.. read and believe the truth..while you can..2 Timothy 3 1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; 5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. 6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, 7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. 8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith. 9 But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as their's also was. 10 But thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, charity, patience, 11 Persecutions, afflictions, which came unto me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra; what persecutions I endured: but out of them all the Lord delivered me. 12 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. 13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived. 14 But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them; 15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. 16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works. Here you will find clinical studies proving that the Jehovah's Witnesses > exhibit rates of mental illness between four and forty times the average > for the population at large: They don't believe the truth.. Have you ever looked at the rates of destruction after evolution was introduced into schools.. > >> >> Concentrate your heart and life upon the Christ life and glory, and > >> >> you will no longer fear anything. [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > ** Get realistic - everything dies. Genes brought death into the world, > > not man. > <<<Well how did the genes get here.? $$ You tell us how they got here. oh the nothing that blew up and created > stuff.. AND you are wrong man did bring death into the world..through sin.. $$ Sin is absurd as an excuse as what is a sin in one society is NOT a sin in another society. You can't inherit "sin." > What sins do I want to commit? Speak for yourself and your own guilt > > ridden conscience. God? Which God? There are thousands of them spread > > over thousands of religions, cults and sects. > <<<1st. Have you ever lied well then you are a liar it only takes one. have > you ever stolen anything no matter the size or value then you're a thief. > ever took GOD's holly name in vein then you have blasphemed that one wont be > forgiven..ever lookedwith lust JESUS said if you look at a women with lust > you have committed adultery with her in your heart already..have you looked > with lust.?? all have sinned you know that.. $$ According to YOUR particular god/goddess. Not everyone worships or believes in the same god you do. Religious babble and dribble snipped...... SignatureJoan... "True, there have been those in times past who predicted an 'end of the world,' even announcing a specific date...The 'end' did not come. They were guilty of false prophesying. Why? What was missing?...Missing from such people were God's truths and the evidence that he was guiding and using them." Awake October 8, 1968, p. 23 NOTE: But when THEY predicted the end and it never came - that was different? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > 3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, > fierce, despisers of those that are good, Did you cross post this or did Joan of Spark? Anyway, please respect the NG you're posting to in the future... Thank you muchly in advance... I'm here now and compelled then to answer... "incontinent" Incontinent? So I guess farting would be a sin too cuz it stinks! And people who become wicked can't support anal retention? Interesting hypothesis! Is there some way to set up a test group of good and evil people and test this? Interestingly, you sight the very scripture that JWs sucked me into their covanent with... I saw there was a lot of shady stuff goin on via people I had Bible Studies with, that couldn't even quit smoking or drinking to excess before they were to be indocteranated into The WTS. I suppose you could say I got frightened into joining cuz thinking we must be in the last days cuz most people fit somewhere in that scripture and cuz my wife had already said OK on my behalf... She's Guatemalian (Mayan Indian)... I read up on her ancesters who threw their children into volcanos and were particularly adept Astronomers. So I picked her ten years prior to joining The WTS. We argued more frequently then but argued less after joining. We always stayed together cuz of advice my wife always got from her best friend. When my wife abandoned her for becoming a Mormon rather than a JW, I knew it was only a matter of time before she'd abandon me as well. And she did, stating infatically : "The only reason I ever wanted you was for breeding purposes..." That's the thanks I got for joining, working, raising a family, going on service, reading rags, attending enormous buffets, going to conventions, etc... Who had time to look at stars? >>> Concentrate your heart and life upon the Christ life and glory, and >>> you will no longer fear anything. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Man brought death to the world and suffering its our fault.. Bullshit! >also consequences for our actions is the most potent force for atheism ever >conceived because you want to sin but not fear the consequences from a just >and holly GOD. Yeah, I also think 'god' is 'holly'. > Actually there are no atheists to say there isn't a god is an absolute > statement if you don't know whats farther than we can see or reach in > space or whatever we cant understand then you really don't know and if > reasonable will have to admit that you don't think he is there with your > currant knowledge but are not sure..really you or they are agnostics you > just don't know.. Could someone bring an interpreter in here. After reading the above my head is still spinning. >>>> Concentrate your heart and life upon the Christ life and glory, and >>>> you will no longer fear anything. [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > Could someone bring an interpreter in here. After reading the above my > head is still spinning. Well reading those lies about coming from a rock will make it hard to except reality but what I said is true.. >>>>> Concentrate your heart and life upon the Christ life and glory, and >>>>> you will no longer fear anything. [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > Well reading those lies about coming from a rock will make it hard to > except reality but what I said is true.. Hell man, read your paragraph again!! It says absolutely nothing, except perhaps the author of the crap is a moron. > >>> Concentrate your heart and life upon the Christ life and glory, and > >>> you will no longer fear anything. [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > Could someone bring an interpreter in here. After reading the above my head > is still spinning. =================== It doesn't matter as it's all meaningless godomania religobabble. SignatureJoan.... "True, there have been those in times past who predicted an 'end of the world,' even announcing a specific date...The 'end' did not come. They were guilty of false prophesying. Why? What was missing?...Missing from such people were God's truths and the evidence that he was guiding and using them." Awake October 8, 1968, p. 23 NOTE: But when THEY predicted the end and it never came - that was different? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >>> Concentrate your heart and life upon the Christ life and glory, and >> >>> you will no longer fear anything. [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > =================== > It doesn't matter as it's all meaningless godomania religobabble. Yeah and a doctor can try and fix you car but he's not a mechanic and will probably not fix it..just as a man can say this or that will happen but that's meaningless GOD said how the end will come NOT when..get the facts straight..but if you don't believe GOD YOU couldn't have them very straight.. > "Joan of Spark" <Remove-Your-Socks@ThisCrazy.net> wrote in message (snip) >> "Properly read, the Bible is the most potent >> force for atheism ever conceived." >> -= Isaac Asimov =- > Man brought death to the world and suffering its our fault.. Riiiight. How is is it man's fault that death is in the world? Did you bother to read Genesis 2:7? > also > consequences for our actions is the most potent force for atheism ever > conceived because you want to sin but not fear the consequences from a just > and holly GOD. Well, Christmas *is* coming folks ;-) > Actually there are no atheists to say there isn't a god is an > absolute statement if you don't know whats farther than we can see or reach > in space or whatever we cant understand then you really don't know and if > reasonable will have to admit that you don't think he is there with your > currant knowledge.... I'd love to try raisin a point here.... > but are not sure..really you or they are agnostics you > just don't know.. I just don't know if I'm agnostic or not, since I'm agnostic on that point. >> "Joan of Spark" <Remove-Your-Socks@ThisCrazy.net> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > I just don't know if I'm agnostic or not, since I'm agnostic on that > point. Well you have to admit its right if your reasonable.. >>> "Joan of Spark" <Remove-Your-Socks@ThisCrazy.net> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > Well you have to admit its right if your reasonable.. (THUMP....THUMP......Bangs head against wall) Bloody Aida! >>>> "Joan of Spark" <Remove-Your-Socks@ThisCrazy.net> wrote in message >>> [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > Bloody Aida! I hope you will see the truth of CHRIST HE IS THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE NO MAN COMETH UNTO THE FATHER BUT BY HIM... >>>>> "Joan of Spark" <Remove-Your-Socks@ThisCrazy.net> wrote in message >>>> [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] >> >> Bloody Aida! > I hope you will see the truth of CHRIST HE IS THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE > NO MAN COMETH UNTO THE FATHER BUT BY HIM... I HOPE THAT YOU WILL COME TO UNDERSTAND THAT "YOU'RE" MEANS "YOU ARE". >>>>> "Joan of Spark" <Remove-Your-Socks@ThisCrazy.net> wrote in message >>>> [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > I hope you will see the truth of CHRIST HE IS THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE > LIFE NO MAN COMETH UNTO THE FATHER BUT BY HIM... Mmm....all caps, must be important. Nope, not important at all. > > Concentrate your heart and life upon the Christ life and glory, and > > you will no longer fear anything. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > ===================== > Tell that to the starving and diseased people in Africa. We all create our own lives. > > > Concentrate your heart and life upon the Christ life and glory, and > > > you will no longer fear anything. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > We all create our own lives. =================== Hummm... tell that to the innocent babies born in Africa. SignatureLupe.... "True, there have been those in times past who predicted an 'end of the world,' even announcing a specific date...The 'end' did not come. They were guilty of false prophesying. Why? What was missing?...Missing from such people were God's truths and the evidence that he was guiding and using them." Awake October 8, 1968, p. 23 NOTE: But when THEY predicted the end and it never came - that was different? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > "Joan of Spark" <Remove-Your-Socks@ThisCrazy.net> wrote in message > news:<INadnRnAOMlVkf7cRVn-qQ@heartoftn.net>... [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > =================== > Hummm... tell that to the innocent babies born in Africa. Who is innocent? What about reincarnation and karmic debt? Or Original Sin? Isn't this what the Masters tell us? But if you find these world happenings (famine, plague, etc) so abhorrent why would you root for the continuance? > > > "Joan of Spark" <Remove-Your-Socks@ThisCrazy.net> wrote in message > > news:<INadnRnAOMlVkf7cRVn-qQ@heartoftn.net>... [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Who is innocent? $$ That depends on which God or Goddess you believe in. From the perspective of most people infants are innocent. They don't know a sin from a bottle of milk. What about reincarnation and karmic debt? Or Original > Sin? Isn't this what the Masters tell us? $$ What Masters? Every religion, cult and sect has their "own" Masters. > But if you find these world happenings (famine, plague, etc) so > abhorrent why would you root for the continuance? $$ Reword that to make sense please. SignatureLupe Lu......... "You can't convince a believer of anything; for their belief is not based on evidence, it's based on a deep seated need to believe." ~ Carl Sagan ~ ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* > > "Joan of Spark" <Remove-Your-Socks@ThisCrazy.net> wrote in message > news:<INadnRnAOMlVkf7cRVn-qQ@heartoftn.net>... [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > =================== > Hummm... tell that to the innocent babies born in Africa. Lupe.... Who is innocent? What about reincarnation and karmic debt? Or Original Sin? Isn't this what the Masters tell us? But if you find these world happenings (famine, plague, etc) so abhorrent why would you root for the continuance? > "Norwood Holden" <norwood_holden@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:9e48f660.0410060422.aa9bd3f@posting.google.com... [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > > > Who is innocent? > $$ That depends on which God or Goddess you believe in. From the perspective > of most people infants are innocent. They don't know a sin from a bottle of > milk. > What about reincarnation and karmic debt? Or Original > > Sin? Isn't this what the Masters tell us? > $$ What Masters? Every religion, cult and sect has their "own" Masters. > > But if you find these world happenings (famine, plague, etc) so > > abhorrent why would you root for the continuance? > $$ Reword that to make sense please. Lupe Lu......... You are correct. I was playing devil's advocate + being a little negative. Go placidly. Love your nic. Norwood. Hello, Norwood. I notice that this thread is degenerating into a flame war, so am curious why you post to NGs that might hold divergent views. I'm specifically talking about sci.bio.paleontology (others might also apply). I know omitting this group won't necessarily stop flaming from other groups, but this group was set up to discuss science, biology, paleontology. Is it part of your purpose to draw fire? If not, try posting to appropriate NGs only. FWIW. Best regards, Brett. > Concentrate your heart and life upon the Christ life and glory, > and you will no longer fear anything. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Be thankful, and remember that your Father in heaven knows > your needs and all you need will be supplied. > Hello, Norwood. > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >> Be thankful, and remember that your Father in heaven knows >> your needs and all you need will be supplied. I agree >>Hello, Norwood. >> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >>>Be thankful, and remember that your Father in heaven knows >>>your needs and all you need will be supplied. You might want to tell that also to the victims of the religious criminals of 9/11. Should we approve of American Talibans now, out of pity, since the original Talibans in Afghanistan are having some problems... (not enough problems, since dubya decided to move to other "spheres of influence"). > I agree Seppo P. > >>Hello, Norwood. > >> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > are having some problems... (not enough problems, since dubya decided to move to > other "spheres of influence"). The first and greatest claim upon you is the claim of God, or of your spirit; or, in other words, your highest self. Your true self is a shining spirit. You must be true to that shining spirit above all things. Let nothing draw you aside from your soul's pursuit of truth and light and eternal love. <snip> >>>>>Be thankful, and remember that your Father in heaven knows >>>>>your needs and all you need will be supplied. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > things. Let nothing draw you aside from your soul's pursuit of truth > and light and eternal love. Yeah, whatever. Seppo P. |
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