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NOVA show *Neanderthals on Trial*; Stonethrowing theory applied

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Archimedes Plutonium - 20 Oct 2004 04:00 GMT
I forget how many times I have seen a repeat of this TV show but each
time seems to bring out new insights.

To those that have watched this show it starts with Svante Paabo of Max
Planck Institute inspecting the mitochondrial DNA of a Neanderthal and
noting that all present day humans differ by 8 mutations whereas the DNA
of Neanderthal differs by 26 mutations leading to the conclusion that
Neanderthal was a different species.

Now according to the Stonethrowing theory CroMagnon was a species that
had throwing much more than Neanderthal. That CroMagnon muscle and
skeletal anatomy was such that it differed a species apart from
Neanderthal.

CroMagnon was a descendent of Oreopithecus which became Orrorin and
eventually became CroMagnon but there were isolated pockets of homo
species that had not fully mutated into a full Stonethrower.

Brow ridges reduce stonethrowing abilities.

Occipital bun reduces the ability to stonethrow.

Shorter legs reduces the ability to stonethrow.

When CroMagnon arrived out of Africa and met Neanderthals they killed
them off slowly by surrounding them and stonethrowing them to death
until they were extinct.

In this show it talks about the cave Fonte Schvade (excuse spelling) and
McPherron leading a team of researchers via laser positioning of
Tyachaen Stone tools. The question was whether they were manmade or
water deposited and the computer via statistical positioning determines
that water deposit. What is important here is to use this technique on
all future rocks and stones found at Oreopithecus or Orrorin or other
homo sites.

Then Messr Dibble and Turk (excuse the spelling) talk about Neanderthal
stone technology. But the thing I was focused upon was that the
Neanderthal tools that none of them were for **throwing** but for in
close fighting. So that if a troop of CroMagnon faced a troop of
Neanderthals that perhaps the Neanderthal did no throwing whereas the
CroMagnon probably did all throwing combat.

From the looks of the stone tools of Neanderthal they were all cutting
tools and no stones or rocks for throwing.

The TV show mentions a Neanderthal found in Iraq whose arm bone had been
injured repeatedly and that Neanderthal arms were longer for their body
size than CroMagnon. Suggesting that the contest between CroMagnon
versus Neanderthal was a extinction match where the superior thrower was
CroMagnon due to muscle and skeleton system that they were adapted to
throwing.

So what needs to be done is a re-look, a re-evaluation of the throwing
tools of both Neanderthal and CroMagnon. From the looks on my TV, which
is not that great, it looked as though Neanderthal created few throwing
rocks and stones.

So if it is shown that whereever CroMagnon was present in Neanderthal
territory and where *throwing rocks* are connected to CroMagnon but not
Neanderthal then we end up with a clear picture of what happened to
these two different species.

Also it needs to be looked into as to whether the DNA of Neanderthal was
different from CroMagnon in those areas of skeleton system that hindered
Throwing abilities.

Archimedes Plutonium
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pete - 20 Oct 2004 05:54 GMT

> When CroMagnon arrived out of Africa and met Neanderthals they killed
> them off slowly by surrounding them and stonethrowing them to death
> until they were extinct.

Why didn't they use atlatls instead?

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The Green Troll - 21 Oct 2004 00:11 GMT
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