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Natural Science Forum / Biology / Paleontology / December 2004wave of forgeries in name of Archimedes Plutonium
--- begin forgery --- From: Archimedes Plutonium <a_pluton...@iw.net> Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email,sci.anthropology,sci.anthropology.paleo,sci.bio.paleontology Subject: Re: Throwing theory vs. Running theory; did the hands evolve faster than the feet?? Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 06:30:48 GMT Organization: www.iw.net/~a_plutonium Lines: 29 Message-ID: <84C608E2.6EE420D@iw.net> References: <41B699E2.9EF354E@iw.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.141.239.221 X-Trace: fata.cs.interbusiness.it 1102670658 15394 217.141.239.221 (10 Dec 2004 09:24:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: n...@interbusiness.it, a...@interbusiness.it NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 09:24:18 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: KNode/0.4 Iraq.56 The Gangster Theory of international law: U.S. might is right. Or as President Bush Sr. quaintly put it concerning his Gulf War I: ". . .what we say goes." The Bush Family's New World Order.57 Hitler only envisioned a "New Order" for Europe. Not surprisingly, Bush Jr.'s grandfather Prescott Herbert Bush had supported and facilitated the rise to power of Hitler and the Nazis in Germany.58 Bush Family values at work. Sadistic Bush Family executions in Florida and Texas by Jeb and Bush Jr. as well. In any event, both the Kellogg-Briand Peace Pact and the United Nations Charter are still solemn and binding "treaties" to which the United States of America is a contracting party and thus "the supreme Law of the Land" according to Article VI of the U.S. Constitution. At the Nuremberg prosecution, the gist of the charge against the Nazi leaders for committing a Crime against Peace was based upon their wanton violation of the Kellogg-Briand Peace Pact, to which Germany was a party. Several Nazi leaders were later condemned and hanged at Nuremberg for violating the Kellogg-Briand Peace Pact. In other words, the governments of the United States and the United Kingdom hanged Nazis at Nuremberg for engaging in the same type of reprehensible behavior that Bush Jr. and Blair did against Iraq. To be sure, I personally oppose the imposition of the death penalty upon any person for any reason, no matter how monstrous their crimes might be -- including Bush Jr., Blair, Bush Sr., McNamara, Kissinger,59 Saddam Hussein, Slobodan Milosevic,60 Sharon, etc. So much for the Kellogg-Briand Peace Pact being conveniently categorized as a "phantasm" and Nuremberg being pejoratively la --- end of 1 forgery amoung 3 in this thread --- Apparently Rushtown of AOL is involved in this forgery. I wonder if iw.net if pressed can release the name of the forgerer. Apparently he could not forge a_plutonium fully, stopping with a_pluton... Years ago some professor was plagued with a rogue forger and he had someone clean up and remove all the forgeries in his name. Whether news.admin.net-abuse assisted him in cleaning up and removing those forged posts. So, does News Admin Net Abuse have an address and does it employ persons? Is it a govt office that operates News Admin Net Abuse. Reason I ask is because it seems as though NANA seems not able to stop forgerers and that NANA seems to have a rule that if a professor is forged that the cleanup is ordered but when Archimedes Plutonium is forged that no cleanup is forthcoming. As I said so often, we have a Freedom of Speech with the Internet but it cannot last if Forgerers are allowed free reign. There is a likelihood that the forgerer is a member of NANA itself. Dear Archimedes Plutonium, The name "Archimedes Plutonium" is a "screen name". Unless you have copy writed it or "Trade Marked" it, anyone can chose to use that same screen name and as far as I know you have no legal recourse. Ethically is stinks, but legally you have nothing to claim here. Should you have been using your real name/ legal name , the situation would be very different legally. >--- begin forgery --- >From: Archimedes Plutonium <a_pluton...@iw.net> [quoted text clipped - 74 lines] > >  SignatureRespectfully, Roger L. Bagula tftn@earthlink.net, 11759Waterhill Road, Lakeside,Ca 92040-2905,tel: 619-5610814 : alternative email: rlbtftn@netscape.net URL : http://home.earthlink.net/~tftn > Dear Archimedes Plutonium, > The name "Archimedes Plutonium" is a "screen name". [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Should you have been using your real name/ legal name , > the situation would be very different legally. Archimedes Plutonium is my **real legal name**. Several legal laws and rules have been broken by the forgerer. (1) identity theft of Archimedes Plutonium (2) identity theft of the ISP iw.net of PrairieWave, because I spoke with Prairiewave and they said that only one subscriber per name for their system (3) spewing of spam to the Internet in my name (4) forger attempting to get me into trouble with my ISP so that they drop me I need to know the physical location of NANA office. I need to know who the boss is of NANA (news.admin.net-abuse). I suspect it is a member of NANA who is the forger. Perhaps Skirvin, perhaps Kolker, perhaps Honerkamp (spellings). Someone in NANA is the likely candidate that forges my name. Story about Tim Skirvin: seems as though Skirvin has bandied his story about his hatred of Archimedes Plutonium and it is time I reveal my side of the story. Back in the early 1990s about 1993 or 4 or 5 when I started to post science to the sci newsgroups there was alot of attention to my posts because they were new and exciting new science so I would draw alot of attention. People hate new ideas and then attack the author of new ideas. So, Skirvin was hired by UIUC to enforce some NANA rules. And Skirvin thence takes the name Archimedes Plutonium and gets a free email account using the name "Archimedes Plutonium" when his name is Tim Skirvin. Odd behaviour for a person whose job is to make the Internet better by enforcing rules and regulations that Skirvin takes out my name of Archimedes Plutonium for a free yahoo email account. So why did Skirvin in the 1990s take out my name? It is because Skirvin wanted to set up a website full of hatred of Archimedes Plutonium so that whenever anyone looks up Archimedes Plutonium cannot fail to see a website of hatred. The Skirvin website of hatred of Archimedes Plutonium occupies one of the top 5 hits for a Google search. So Skirvin forged my name to yahoo in order to make his hate web site of Archimedes Plutonium rank as the top 5 sites. Not even the homepage of Archimedes Plutonium ranks higher than Skirvin's hate site, all due to the trick that Skirvin pulled in early 1990s by taking out a yahoo email using archimedes_plutonium so that his hatred site outranks even Archimedes Plutonium. None of us expect that when NANA hires people to make the web and Internet better by enforcing rules and regulations that those hirees such as Tim Skirvin thence go about attacking people and fanning hatred. I do not know if it is Skirvin that is forging my name recently. Whether it is Kolker or Honerkamp or other hirees of NANA. Or whether it is someone outside of NANA. I do know that Rebecca Ore (spelling) is about the only one at NANA that is reasonable and objective and doing a concerned job. She raised her voice about forging the name Archimedes Plutonium and that it was not a good idea or responsible. So it seems as though Rebecca probably knows who the forger is, but, yet, it still continues. So, does anyone know the physical location of NANA-- its building? Its boss? Because I do not see how NANA is making the Internet and Web a better place when it has people like Tim Skirvin who fan hatred, and people who probably forge the name of others. I know that NANA probably has many hirees who are awfully young and being young is being dumb and full of testosterone that pulling pranks such as forging names is probably a great excitement for a dull night at the computers. But if NANA cannot stop forgery and if NANA is committing forgeries, well, who needs NANA if they cause more harm than what they are worth. Archimedes Plutonium www.iw.net/~a_plutonium whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies Dear Archimedes Plutonium, I doubt that this sort of email is going to make you seem saner to your persecutors. Paranoia is very distinctive in you posts. If someone is using your legal name without your permission/ volition then you need to see a lawyer and the police. Identity theft is a crime. You can also sue the person for damages, both monetary and emotional. It is no crime to be paranoid, but others may take advantage of you because of it. Your civil rights are still good in American courts. It might also help you case for pain and suffereing to have copies of all the emails involved in hard copy. You need a good lawyer. > > [quoted text clipped - 72 lines] > > SignatureRespectfully, Roger L. Bagula tftn@earthlink.net, 11759Waterhill Road, Lakeside,Ca 92040-2905,tel: 619-5610814 : alternative email: rlbtftn@netscape.net URL : http://home.earthlink.net/~tftn > Dear Archimedes Plutonium, > I doubt that this sort of email is going to make you seem saner to your [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > copies of all the emails involved in hard copy. > You need a good lawyer. Unfortunately for Archie, the perp has a ready made out: how could he know someone would actually change their name to that??? Diogenes Calcium Tartrate Dear Rich Travsky, Legally any name accepted as legally binding is protected from Identity Theft , even if it is one that has been changed. Also ignorance of the law or facts doesn't excuse illegal behavior. ( behavior contrary to legal ordinances). Claiming to be someone else as to defame the real person is identity theft as Archimedes Plutonium claims. Your defense of these fellows would have to be much better than that in court. (Also you seem to lack some spark of humanity here!) I can see them spending time in prison and lossing their assets to a pain and suffering tort judgement. Everyone has to answer for their actions when they harm others who are innocent. > > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >Diogenes Calcium Tartrate > SignatureRespectfully, Roger L. Bagula tftn@earthlink.net, 11759Waterhill Road, Lakeside,Ca 92040-2905,tel: 619-5610814 : alternative email: rlbtftn@netscape.net URL : http://home.earthlink.net/~tftn > Dear Rich Travsky, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Also ignorance of the law or facts doesn't excuse > illegal behavior. This is not ignorance of the law. It's ignorance that someone would actually change their name to Archimedes Plutonium. Think about it: How are you, and how is Mrs Plutonium? > ( behavior contrary to legal ordinances). > Claiming to be someone else as to defame the real person is identity theft > as Archimedes Plutonium claims. > Your defense of these fellows would have to be much better than that in > court. > (Also you seem to lack some spark of humanity here!) You seem to be lacking some spark of humor! > I can see them spending time in prison and lossing their assets > to a pain and suffering tort judgement. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > > >Diogenes Calcium Tartrate Dear Rich Travsky, When people steal from you or others and you turn a blind eye, then you are welcoming that same problem for yourself eventually. It isn't humorous to be persecuted. One reason usenet was originally organized was suppression in the scientific community of valuable information. I've read his posts. He's somewhat strange at times, but usually quite rational, unlike some of the sap posts by "scientists". Because he doesn't crave a spot of dirt with rotten bones in it, doesn't make him less a scientist Because he goes by a different name.... A "rose" by any name smells as sweet. Which goes for criminal behavior like forging the names of others for a grudge. Ethics are not something well taught to professionasl these days? > > [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] >>> >>> SignatureRespectfully, Roger L. Bagula tftn@earthlink.net, 11759Waterhill Road, Lakeside,Ca 92040-2905,tel: 619-5610814 : alternative email: rlbtftn@netscape.net URL : http://home.earthlink.net/~tftn > Dear Rich Travsky, > When people steal from you or others and you turn a blind eye, > then you are welcoming that same problem for yourself eventually. Simple test for you: did you REALLY think Archimedes Plutonium was his REAL name???? Seriously, now... > It isn't humorous to be persecuted. > One reason usenet was originally organized was [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] > >>> > >>>Diogenes Calcium Tartrate > Dear Archimedes Plutonium, > I doubt that this sort of email is going to make you seem saner to your > persecutors. I remember one persecutor who started in 1993 and would interrupt every one of my threads of science with his hate spam and mockery until year 2002, after some observers told him to stop ragging and stalking. So, yes, the level of hatred is phenomenally high when it concerns myself. A killfile works wonders. > Paranoia is very distinctive in you posts. If someone is using your > legal name I would not call it paranoia, so much as that of being outnumbered. What the ancients called howl of the Boietians. It is not paranoia as in the last 2 incidents of 6 months ago when forgeries were posted. And instead of Roger Bagula attempting to speak fairly and objectively it was Rebecca Or attempting to speak objectively and fairly. And just after Rebecca said that these forgeries should stop, she was pounced upon by about half a dozen or a dozen of hate mongers who called Rebecca foul names, and some of them being net cops of the news admin group. So if Rebecca recieves hate spam for saying that forgeries are in bad taste and violate the rules and that they should be stopped yet other net cops of NANA call Rebecca fouls names. I do not call that paranoia, but call it a sad state of affairs that people with new science ideas have to put up with a mountain of haters. > without your permission/ volition then you need to see a lawyer > and the police. Identity theft is a crime. You can also sue the person I spoke with a lawyer who indicates that a threshold of monetary value must be reached before a prosecutorial case arises. That threshold involves the amount of time it takes me to have to post to NANA that a repeat forger. And the thresold also involves NANA itself in the nonaction they take such as: (1) cancelling the forgeries (2) removing the forgeries out of Google which does not recognize forgery posts (3) the lackadaisical response by NANA to stop repeat offenses (4) the straightforwardness of NANA to post the name of the forger and his address of forgery to the news.admin.net-abuse (5) all of these lackiness by NANA indicates that a net-cop of NANA is the forger himself > for damages, > both monetary and emotional. IF the forger tried to gain access to say a bank account and removed money or bought merchandize using my name and then sending me the bill, then, Roger, I would be going to court tomorrow and the police/FBI would have the forger in an instant. But the threshold of money has not yet been reached by the forger, unless I count the time it takes to notify NANA that another forgery is committed. Roger, this is about the 3rd or 4th flair up of forgeries this year, and so if it continues then that threshold will be reached. > It is no crime to be paranoid, but others may take advantage of you > because of it. > Your civil rights are still good in American courts. > It might also help you case for pain and suffereing to have > copies of all the emails involved in hard copy. > You need a good lawyer. What is different about this recent flareup of forgies is that the forger interrupted a science thread in anthropology where I was discussing Throwing versus Running. Forgeries tend to disrupt a science conversation where one poster even Plonked my posts due to the forgeries. In past forgeries, the forger did not post into the threads where I was active and left the ISP different from mine ISP of iw.net. But this time the forger copied almost everything of mine to make it difficult for anyone except myself to know it was a forgery. This suggests to me that the forger did not munge the ISP or the Message ID. Which suggests to me that the forger is someone inside of net cops of the Internet itself. Someone said to me that the forger is a man who goes by the name "Old Man" and lives in California, but I have no surety of such. What I am sure of is that time spent away from science, to me is mostly time wasted. Roger, one last question: who hires the net cops of the Internet and who is the boss of them and where is the physical office of these net cops of Internet? Is it part of the department of the FCC in Washington? Because I think that the very moment I can find who the boss is, that this foolishness of forgies will stop very fast. Because it is a pitiful shame that so many of these net cops are overtestosteroned young kids out of college into their first job in life and who see forgery as something of a grand game on a dull night. P.S. but who knows, perhaps the boss of the net cops is the forger himself. And if that is the case, then what the Internet needs is not a News.Admin.Net-Abuse but a newsgroup full of lawyers where I can post these forgeries and then be steps closer to halting and prosecuting these miscreants. Archimedes Plutonium www.iw.net/~a_plutonium whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies Dear Archimedes Plutonium, I got four bounces of emails I didn't send this morning so pissing off your "friends" isn't a real good idea. And I see that the level of "humanity" is very low on the usenet. > > [quoted text clipped - 102 lines] > > SignatureRespectfully, Roger L. Bagula tftn@earthlink.net, 11759Waterhill Road, Lakeside,Ca 92040-2905,tel: 619-5610814 : alternative email: rlbtftn@netscape.net URL : http://home.earthlink.net/~tftn > Dear Archimedes Plutonium, > I got four bounces of emails I didn't send this morning so > pissing off your "friends" isn't a real good idea. > And I see that the level of "humanity" is very low on the usenet. Yes, hi Roger. I have alot of enemies, and it is funny how some of them feel as if it is their duty and job in life to suppress and mock and hate-mill-spam me. It is a form of stalking I believe and it relieves their sick psychology. A normal person who finds they hate something tend to avoid the source or ignore it. But some of my enemies have non-stop stalked me ever since August of 1993. Some people who like to participate in my threads, post with a screen name and invalid email in order to cut off that gaggle of hate spammers. Killfiles are the solution for anyone on the Internet who is serious about something and does not want to waste a moment of time on people who are blind with hatred. Archimedes Plutonium www.iw.net/~a_plutonium whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies >> Dear Archimedes Plutonium, >> I got four bounces of emails I didn't send this morning so [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > source or ignore it. But some of my enemies have non-stop stalked me ever > since August of 1993. This is USENET. Well, that is why a lot of people use anonymous remailer things - if they CAN use them (or figure out how to make them work properly). Spam is ad sh.t in the email box - if you post ANYWHERE online, email on website, yahoo group, google posting, whatever, you are gonna GET spam. Get spam filters. Or delete. Serious discussion is no longer on usenet - it's either on moderated message boards, or in egroups. > Some people who like to participate in my threads, post with a screen name > and invalid email in > order to cut off that gaggle of hate spammers. Yup. Or an online email addy that I NEVER check, LOL. I doubt the people flaming you or faking your posts are sending you spam. spam comes - period. LMAO. > Killfiles are the solution for anyone on the Internet who is serious about > something and does not > want to waste a moment of time on people who are blind with hatred. They can also be dangerous if a person REALLY hates you. You can't see what they are up to! The problem with killfiling a person faking your own nick, is that you won't see your own posts, LMAO. > Archimedes Plutonium > www.iw.net/~a_plutonium > whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots > of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies Your ISP can tell if it's a genuine post from you or not (so can anyone that knows how to read full headers). Here is your header from this post you just made, which I'm responding to. Path: newsspool2.news.pas.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!elnk-nf2-pas!newsfeed.earthlink.net!newshub.sdsu.edu!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.prairiewave.com!news.prairiewave.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 22:43:51 -0600 Message-ID: <41BD1E04.647FFC44@iw.net> Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 22:43:48 -0600 From: Archimedes Plutonium <a_plutonium@iw.net> Reply-To: NOiwEMAIL Organization: www.iw.net/~a_plutonium X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.anthropology.paleo,news.admin.net-abuse,sci.anthropology,sci.bio.paleontology Subject: Re: wave of forgeries in name of Archimedes Plutonium References: <1102740311.537323.240800@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <41BC8644.3050804@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 76 NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.16.17.27 X-Trace: sv3-2zfsSKMJtkyl4zLWyuuknbMNyhd+uUlcOScqpsSvlIWFFUSC6Dk8v3V2al8jC5THRXH8w7e9WVXyCNR!e0SbHUW7nreJsaGp/qvPA2ekFfbkzAUG4E2R6nFftBxKAL5QyS05AD/t0FOD6RQL0I/ULqMrhs8L X-Complaints-To: abuse@iw.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@iw.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.20 Xref: news.earthlink.net sci.anthropology.paleo:113813 sci.anthropology:125452 sci.bio.paleontology:54472 X-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 20:44:56 PST (newsspool2.news.pas.earthlink.net) Note that your name in the header has "a" - the other header has "~a" !! YOUR post header is from here: PrairieWave Telecommunications, Inc. 216-16-0-0-1 (NET-216-16-0-0-1) 216.16.0.0 - 216.16.127.255 PrairieWave Dialup DHCP DIALUP-216-16-17-0 (NET-216-16-17-0-1) 216.16.17.0 - 216.16.17.63 If the post you just responded to, where a full header is showing in that post, is that the faker's header? Here is the info for that IP in that header Search results for: 217.141.239.221 OrgName: RIPE Network Coordination Centre OrgID: RIPE Address: P.O. Box 10096 City: Amsterdam StateProv: PostalCode: 1001EB Country: NL ReferralServer: whois://whois.ripe.net:43 NetRange: 217.0.0.0 - 217.255.255.255 CIDR: 217.0.0.0/8 NetName: 217-RIPE NetHandle: NET-217-0-0-0-1 Parent: NetType: Allocated to RIPE NCC NameServer: NS-PRI.RIPE.NET NameServer: NS3.NIC.FR NameServer: SUNIC.SUNET.SE NameServer: AUTH00.NS.UU.NET NameServer: SEC1.APNIC.NET NameServer: SEC3.APNIC.NET NameServer: TINNIE.ARIN.NET Comment: These addresses have been further assigned to users in Comment: the RIPE NCC region. Contact information can be found in Comment: the RIPE database at http://www.ripe.net/whois RegDate: 2000-06-05 Updated: 2004-03-16 Yah, you have a complaint - file the complaint with THIS address, which is in the header of the post you responded to:Complaints-To: n...@interbusiness.it, a...@interbusiness.itHmm, looks like a bs address there, but that's what's in that header.People can fake your name, your email and heh, some folks can even fake your IP! But the ISP itself can not be fooled by this. Good luck - been there, had it happen to me - and yes, it >> Dear Archimedes Plutonium, >> The name "Archimedes Plutonium" is a "screen name". [quoted text clipped - 101 lines] > whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots > of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies > Your ISP can tell if it's a genuine post from you or not (so can anyone that > knows how to read full headers). [quoted text clipped - 84 lines] > be fooled by this. Good luck - been there, had it happen to me - and yes, it > SUCKS. "Archimedes Plutonium" <a_plutonium@iw.net> wrote in message Thanks. I think it should be standard protocol of NANA to make a detailed report of the Forger post and if possible even the name of the person doing the forgery. In that NANA emails interbusiness.it asking for the name of the person committing the forgery. And then NANA posting the person who did the forgery. That would reduce forgery by a magnitude. There are two victims in a forgery of the above. There is myself a victim but also the ISP is a victim in that the forger forged the ISP. So, if and when a lawsuit comes, then the forger is faced with 2 defendants. Question: is there someway of removing those forged posts completely out of the system and even Google? Archimedes Plutonium www.iw.net/~a_plutonium whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies Note specific things left in your header here - I'm assuming this is YOUR header. : >> From: Archimedes Plutonium <a_plutonium@iw.net> >> Reply-To: NOiwEMAIL >> Organization: www.iw.net/~a_plutonium >> NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.16.17.27 >> X-Complaints-To: abuse@iw.net >> X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@iw.net Now note specific things in the forged header: >--- begin forgery --- >From: Archimedes Plutonium <a_pluton...@iw.net> >Organization: www.iw.net/~a_plutonium >NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.141.239.221 >X-Trace: fata.cs.interbusiness.it 1102670658 15394 217.141.239.221 (10 >X-Complaints-To: n...@interbusiness.it, a...@interbusiness.it The header is not forged here. Only your name is. The IP doesn't resolve to the same place at all, so the IP is not spoofed as if it's yours. . >> YOUR post header is from here: >> PrairieWave Telecommunications, Inc. 216-16-0-0-1 (NET-216-16-0-0-1) >> 216.16.0.0 - 216.16.127.255 >> PrairieWave Dialup DHCP DIALUP-216-16-17-0 (NET-216-16-17-0-1) >> 216.16.17.0 - 216.16.17.63 This is the forged header >> Search results for: 217.141.239.221 >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> PostalCode: 1001EB >> Country: NL Do you see? Yes, it would be very nice if forgers were outed for all to see. But law has not kept up with the technology at all - not even close. Here is one for you - you get a collect call from an officer - will you accept the charges. If you say no and hang up, they call again as if it's very urgent. You find it it's the law calling about someone you know who has been in an accident. One of the people didn't have his license with him, so he's at the police station. You are told that you need to call the station and given a number and a "code" to press so you can get directly in touch with Sgt. Jones or something. the number is *721 area code, number. Heh. If you call it, you will forward your calls and whoever is at the end of that number (out of state number) will be able to use YOUR PHONE. And so, I call the cops about this and give them the number of the person obviously IN on the scam. The cops knows about it and say it IS a scam. But can they go after the person at the end of the number I gave them? NO - that person didn't do any crime and can say "well, I had no idea someone forwarded their phones to me." I say, put a f.cking gun to the head of that person and MAKE them talk. Who's doing this, believe it or not, are people IN JAIL, doing this scam and falsely representing themselves as cops - which IS a crime. I say, they are BOTH in on it - but the law has not yet caught up to the technology. If it happens to y ou and you DO call the *721 and number - just hit *73 and get your phones back. Or be safe - NEVER GET CALL FORWARDING. I don't have it. Don't want it. > Question: is there someway of removing those forged posts completely out > of the system and even Google? Well, yes, if you want to do it. Here is how: Send an email to groups-support@google.com Give them the url and/or message id from google of the forged post. Uh, on GOOGLE find the post, click options and view the post as original and get the message ID from that and the url (either or). It has to be the url to ONLY that post, not a whole stream of posts, as it shows up on google. Tell them to remove it BUT - you have to also do this: . You have to give google: 1. Your full name and contact information, including an email address that can be verified. 2. The complete Google Groups URL (or message ID) for each message you would like to have suppressed. 3. A statement that says "I swear under penalty of civil or criminal laws that I am the person who posted each of the foregoing." YOU GOT THAT PART? And also this 4. Your full name typed at the end of the message. In other words, you are going to have to claim YOU WROTE those posts to get them removed. You might not want to do that. It's up to you. I have no idea if google can tell if you really are the poster from your IP number or not. There are a stream of posts on here, some with my nick and email too, and I did not make them. Prior to that, I also noticed a few posts with my name and email and the header looked very similar to my real header - and I did not make those posts either. Keep in mind, I'm not using a name on here. I'm using a nick. The nick is not copyrighted. > Archimedes Plutonium > www.iw.net/~a_plutonium > whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots > of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies |
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