I am not an expert; however I was reading Tim Flannery's book
Country, the book is about the evolution of kangaroos.
>From pages 194-202 he talks about placental mammals originating in
Australia (or generally Gowanda) around 110 million years ago. He cited
a fossil finds of a placental mammal found in Australia dated to 115
million years ago, also he cited two independent studies of placental
mammal DNA published in the Nature and Science journals. The DNA
results show that Afrotheria mammals branched off about 90 million
years ago, Then the Xenartha mammals branches off around 80 million and
then all the other placental mammals branching off less than 80 million
years ago from a common ancestor in Laurasia.
If this is proven to be true, it might shed some light on the
mysterious Gondwanatheria group of mammals.
I wanted to know your opinions on this topic, which according to
Flannery is a hotly debated topic in palaeontology.
George - 13 Mar 2005 16:13 GMT
>I am not an expert; however I was reading Tim Flannery's book
> Country, the book is about the evolution of kangaroos.
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> I wanted to know your opinions on this topic, which according to
> Flannery is a hotly debated topic in palaeontology.
http://archives.cnn.com/2002/TECH/science/04/25/coolsc.mammal/?related
PITTSBURGH, Pennsylvania (CNN) -- A 5-inch-long creature that looked more like a
mouse than a man may be the earliest known member of the mammal group that
includes humans, according to U.S. and Chinese scientists who have studied
fossilized remains of the animal.
The fossil, resembling a contemporary tree shrew, is believed to be 125 million
years old. It was unearthed in China in 2000. Experts believe this early mammal,
which weighed less than a pound, had long claws, lived in bushes and ate
insects, much like modern, squirrel-like shrews. However, unlike its modern
counterparts, the ancient animal had the additional task of dodging carnivorous
dinosaurs.
Scientists say this is the earliest known placental mammal, the type dominant
today. In placental mammals, babies grow and are nourished inside the mother's
body through an organ known as the placenta.
Philip Bowles - 14 Mar 2005 04:35 GMT
> I am not an expert; however I was reading Tim Flannery's book
> Country, the book is about the evolution of kangaroos.
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> I wanted to know your opinions on this topic, which according to
> Flannery is a hotly debated topic in palaeontology.
I know placentals have been found in Australia, predating the
discovery of marsupial fossils there, but I wasn't aware the country
had been proposed as a site for placental evolution. As far as I know
the breeding mode of the Gondwanatherses (a Jurassic group, definitely
predating 110 million years ago) is unknown and their remains are
mostly known from Argentina. Physiologically the shrews and tenrecs
appear to be the most primitive extant placentals (tenrecs in
particular appear to have only limited endothermic abilities, little
more developed than those in echidnas), and I don't know of any
remains resembling either from Australia.
Philip Bowles
Tristan Jones - 14 Mar 2005 04:52 GMT
> I know placentals have been found in Australia, predating the
> discovery of marsupial fossils there, but I wasn't aware the country
> had been proposed as a site for placental evolution.
My correction before I read that book I never heard anything about
Australian being a centre for placental evolution.
> As far as I know
> the breeding mode of the Gondwanatherses (a Jurassic group, definitely
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>
> Philip Bowles
Some think Gondwanatheres were closely related to monotremes (like Dr
Tom Rich), others see similarites with Xentharia group. I will find
that DNA study of Placental mammals that was published in Nature and
Science and share it.
Dawid Mazurek - 23 Mar 2005 13:24 GMT
Hi!
Some usefull information can be found in the article "In quest for phylogeny
of Mesozoic mammals" Full article, abstrats, data matrix and search results
are available from here: http://www.app.pan.pl/app47-1.htm (first article
from top).
Some interesting articles, like the one from Nature, 2002 concerning the
earliest eutherian mammals can be downloaded from here:
http://www.carnegiemnh.org/vp/cv/luo.htm
Cheers, Dawid