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Natural Science Forum / Biology / Paleontology / April 2005Soft tissue from T-rex fossil?
"stretchy and flexible"?!? I'm not sure I believe this one. Any thoughts? http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/science/03/24/rex.tissue.ap/index.html  SignatureJohn Brock jbrock@panix.com Its all over the media now. Almost too incredible to believe... > "stretchy and flexible"?!? I'm not sure I believe this one. Any > thoughts? > > http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/science/03/24/rex.tissue.ap/index.html It's made Nature, Science and the NY times. But the Nature discussion points out that people who have looked at this have not yet analyzed the flexible material and other than being sure it is organic, they really can't be sure what it is. >"stretchy and flexible"?!? I'm not sure I believe this one. Any >thoughts? > >http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/science/03/24/rex.tissue.ap/index.html >It's made Nature, Science and the NY times. But the Nature discussion >points out that people who have looked at this have not yet analyzed [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> >>http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/science/03/24/rex.tissue.ap/index.html Here's the university's press release: http://www.ncsu.edu/news/press_releases/05_03/075.htm Ladies and Gentlemen of the Paleontological nee Palaeontological Community! (be you geologists or biologists ;-), How many centuries have you been collecting "Fossilized Bones"? Anyone just a bit embarrassed that it took till now for one of you to discover this? (Someone with a PhD in Biology from Montana State, I just can't resist adding, without wishing to re ignite a certain silly, Brobdingnagian recent thread). Anyone care to redo the field of Taphonomy? (and this time get it right ;-) I agree that we need to see the BIOchemistry first! Wishing you all nice chocolaty EGG on your faces tomorrow! Cheers, Bob Hartwick* *N.B. Bob Hartwick is not any kind of a paleontologist. Bob Hartwick is not a fact, only a theory. I guess we need to think about the question of what happens to soft tissues if you put them in an absolutely airtight container and leave them there for 68 million years. I just assumed that soft remains were never totally protected from the environment, that there was always a certain amount of slow fluid flow through the pores of the rock, bringing enough acids and oxygen to destroy and wash away anything organic, certainly over the course of millions of years. But maybe not! >It's made Nature, Science and the NY times. But the Nature discussion >points out that people who have looked at this have not yet analyzed [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> >>http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/science/03/24/rex.tissue.ap/index.html SignatureJohn Brock jbrock@panix.com It's fantastic! I thought it might be an early April Fool's joke at first. Are they going to be able to determine hot-bloodedness or colbloodedness from this? > It's fantastic! I thought it might be an early April Fool's joke at > first. > > Are they going to be able to determine hot-bloodedness or > colbloodedness from this? I am totally convinced personally Dinosaurs were warm-blooded, however I wonder if any T-Rex DNA was preserved in the fossil. If DNA could be obtained it could answer some questions to Dinosaurs relationships with other animal groups, especially birds. >> It's fantastic! I thought it might be an early April Fool's joke at >> first. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >obtained it could answer some questions to Dinosaurs relationships with >other animal groups, especially birds. I know it's been some years, but, my condolences on the loss of your great and good friend Nelson. Bill Smith > I know it's been some years, but, my condolences on the loss of your > great and good friend Nelson. > > Bill Smith Bill, You must know another person named Tristan Jones, I do not know anyone by the name of Nelson. I am just a University Student from Australia. >> I know it's been some years, but, my condolences on the loss of your >> great and good friend Nelson. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >You must know another person named Tristan Jones, I do not know anyone >by the name of Nelson. I am just a University Student from Australia. The late Tristan Jones was an author of books about his sailing adventures all over the world, I thought you'd taken his name as a handle out of admiration of his work. Nelson was his three legged Labrador retriever that saved his life on one particularly memorable occasion Bill Smith > >> I know it's been some years, but, my condolences on the loss of your > >> great and good friend Nelson. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Bill Smith Ah, another Tristan Jones fan wasting your admiration on the uneducated in the world's universities. Send our young Tristan Jones out to http://www.tristanjones.org/ -- E a r l C o x Founder and President Scianta Intelligence, LLC Turn Knowledge Into Intelligence www dot scianta dot com 1289 N. Fordham Blvd. Suite 312 Chapel Hill, NC 27514 AUTHOR: "The Fuzzy Systems Handbook" (1994) "Fuzzy Logic for Business and Industry" (1995) "Beyond Humanity: CyberEvolution and Future Minds" (1996, with Greg Paul, Paleontologist/Artist) "The Fuzzy Systems Handbook, 2nd Ed." (1998) "Fuzzy Logic and Genetic Algorithms for Data Mining and Exploration" (2005) >"stretchy and flexible"?!? I'm not sure I believe this one. Any >thoughts? > >http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/science/03/24/rex.tissue.ap/index.html So when are we going to break ground on Jurassic Park? Bill Smith >>"stretchy and flexible"?!? I'm not sure I believe this one. Any >>thoughts? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Bill Smith Just as soon as we develope workable time travel. >>"stretchy and flexible"?!? I'm not sure I believe this one. Any >>thoughts? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Bill Smith Jurassic Park with a T.rex might be a reach, certainly for now, but I saw last week that some Japanese researchers were seriously working on some frozen mammoths that they had trucked out of Siberia. Not sure that being muched by a sabertooth would be all that much more pleasant than being gnawed by a tyranosaur! As for the T.rex tissue. . . . It would be a long reach to imagine that enough intact DNA survived to somehow make an ostrich (or if you happen to be on the other side of the question, a croc) a proud, even if all-consumed, parent. But. . . . its intriguing enough to speculate that enough fragments might be lying around to maybe sort out the ostrich vs croc question. 8-) Regards bk |
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