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Natural Science Forum / Biology / Paleontology / April 2005Radio: The Scars of Evolution (Aquatic Ape Theory)
The Scars of Evolution (Aquatic Ape Theory) Tomorrow Tuesday at 11GMT on BBC Radio 4, the second part, with new information on vernix caseosa and on squalene. http://www.onelist.com/community/AAT Part one can be heard on streaming audio (29 minutes) - just click on this link (requires 'Real' Audio - free download for player) http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/shows/rpms/radio4/scarsofevolution.ram  SignaturePosted by Robert Karl Stonjek (thanks Marc Verhaegen) > The Scars of Evolution (Aquatic Ape Theory) > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > link (requires 'Real' Audio - free download for player) > http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/shows/rpms/radio4/scarsofevolution.ram OK, I gotta know. Why would anyone "thank" Marco? SignatureYada, yada, yada. ----aa list #329---- > > The Scars of Evolution (Aquatic Ape Theory) > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Part one can be heard on streaming audio (29 minutes) - just click on this > > link (requires 'Real' Audio - free download for player) http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/shows/rpms/radio4/scarsofevolution.ram > > -- > > Posted by > > Robert Karl Stonjek (thanks Marc Verhaegen) > > OK, I gotta know. Why would anyone "thank" Marco? Ask your Mum. She'll explain... :-) > Yada, yada, yada. > ----aa list #329---- [...] > http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/shows/rpms/radio4/scarsofevolution.ram >> > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Ask your Mum. She'll explain... :-) OK, I asked me Mum, Begosh an' Begora if she ain't got a clue, either. Maybe it runs in the family.... :-) SignatureYada, yada, yada. > "rmacfarl" <rmacfarl@alphalink.com.au> wrote in message ... > >> OK, I gotta know. Why would anyone "thank" Marco? > > > > Ask your Mum. She'll explain... :-) > > OK, I asked me Mum, Begosh an' Begora if she > ain't got a clue, either. Maybe it runs in the family.... :-) See if this jogs your memory: > Don't you go listening to Michael Roshard. His mother despared of ever > teaching him manners. :-) Ross Macfarlane >> "rmacfarl" <rmacfarl@alphalink.com.au> wrote in message > ... [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > :-) OH! I get it, it's the ~polite~ thing to do! So when (according to Michael Roshard's mother) somebody spends an eon calling you a nincompoop, the correct response is to kiss him/her on both cheeks. Just one more question: "Which cheeks?" ;-) Marco was "thanked" vigorously over on T.O. in the recent past. You should check it out --you think *I'm* ill-mannered.... > Ross Macfarlane SignatureYada, yada, yada. dry apers' arguments... try this, my children http://www.onelist.com/community/AAT :-D ____ >> "rmacfarl" <rmacfarl@alphalink.com.au> wrote in message > ... [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Ross Macfarlane Really, all this over nothing!! If I repost a news alert originally posted by someone else (eg from one of the discussion groups I moderate such as Evolutionary Psychology, Mind and Brain, or Cognitive Neuroscience), I acknowledge them with a thank you. SignatureKind Regards Robert Karl Stonjek > The Scars of Evolution (Aquatic Ape Theory) > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > link (requires 'Real' Audio - free download for player) > http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/shows/rpms/radio4/scarsofevolution.ram Oh, I don't think anyone has a problem with being nice. It's just the character to whom you are directing all this nice-ness. Certainly you've read some of the exchanges here with Verhaegen. Certainly you can appreciate all the baggage that goes along with that. I see someone being "nice" to a raving pit bull who's just finished mauling some small child. That's what I see. You'll excuse me if I pause to wonder why.... > Oh, I don't think anyone has a problem with being nice. It's just the > character to whom you are directing all this nice-ness. Certainly [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > some small child. That's what I see. You'll excuse me if I pause to > wonder why.... Marc as a raving pit bull mauling a small child???? The comically incompetent malevolence of Daffy Duck is the image that leaps to my mind.... Rick Wagler > > Oh, I don't think anyone has a problem with being nice. It's just the > > character to whom you are directing all this nice-ness. Certainly [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Rick Wagler Or Sylvester, with Algis as the little cat whimpering "My father - afraid of a little mouse! Oh, the shame!" Come on Michael, take your medicine and let this one go, hey? We don't achieve anything attacking wet-apers' style without substance... Ross Macfarlane > > > Oh, I don't think anyone has a problem with being nice. It's just > the [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Come on Michael, take your medicine and let this one go, hey? We don't > achieve anything attacking wet-apers' style without substance... Well, I agree, this thread is pretty stupid but I think my point is valid. That is, I don't see why it's OK for someone to reward the stupid, brutish and pig-ignorant for elbowing their way through life. A pit bull mauling a small child is a disgusting and revolting act --which pretty well characterizes my reaction to the line of argument presented here by Marco, et al. I couldn't quite parse that last sentence; whose "style without substance" were you refering to? I don't think Lincoln's Gettysburg address would have had the same impact if it were delivered by Orville Faubus, do you? You do see my point, do you not? > Ross Macfarlane ... > > Come on Michael, take your medicine and let this one go, hey? We > don't [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > You do see my point, do you not? No, to be frank, I don't, but let me expand on mine. I have no problem with you taking the stick to the substance of any "argument" that Marc puts forward, but I see no reason for getting your knickers in a twist when someone thanks him for pointing them in the direction of some information that they found interesting. I don't see the need, nor less the justification, for characterising someone as "brutish", "pig-ignorant", "disgusting" or "revolting", when they hadn't even posted anything in the thread. If there's something that Marc has had to say that you don't like, take issue with it. Otherwise, follow my mother's advice, and say nothing. You're out of line Mike, in my opinion. Your attack was misplaced, and unnecessary. Go back in your box. End of discussion... Ross Macfarlane Actually that was a bit over the top on my part too. Sorry Mike; sorry all. Having a tough day at the office (literally...) Yep, I know all about office days as I've been having a string of them myself. But look, I don't have anything against being *nice*. I think I've said so myself upthread. What I do have a problem with *myself*, *personally*, is being nice to the wet apes. Bob has said nothing in this group that would give anyone pause to think that I wouldn't welcome anything he had to say. He can even be *nice* to Marco for all I care. What he can't do, nor anyone else can do, for that matter, is to get me to believe that Marco is deserving of it. That's all that I have said. If you need support for that viewpoint or think that it is misplaced then you haven't been reading this NG. If Marco thinks that this little squabble is indicative of the level of argument *against* the AAX, then ~he~ hasn't been reading this NG. Now can we talk about something else? from AAT: > I think, initially, Marc had stepped in more or less the way you have, and > the fact that it turned out to be a sort of "fight-club" was probably a > great surprise to him (ten years ago I generally found the Internet was a > nicer place, and the sort of thing I saw him subjected to was rather an > exception). --Michael It was a real shock when I first visited sci.anthropology.sci (IIRC it was on the 30th of March, but I don't remember the year): before I had posted anything, somebody there said something like this: "Do you know a good April's fool? This has been published in a scientific journal", and then he mentioned my famous "snorkel sentence" (which is obviously correct, whether Hn spent a lot of time in water or nothing at all): "In a Neandertal swimming on his back, the large nose with distal nostrils and the protruding midface surrounded by large air sinuses functioned as a snorkel." After all those years (1991), nobody has provided good arguments to change this sentence... .... > The Savannah Hypothesis has been the conventional wisdom, the accepted > idea, for longer than some of us have been alive. AAH is the challenger, > and has only very recently been given any hearing whatsoever. Even > mentioning the idea is still sufficient grounds for being banned from some > PA forums (or has that changed? Algis? Marc?). I'm still banned from a few discussion groups for mentioning AAT. IOW, for claiming that Homo dispersed along the coasts. Luckily, they don't burn heretics any more. Marc Verhaegen http://allserv.rug.ac.be/~mvaneech/Verhaegen.html http://www.onelist.com/community/AAT AAT = Homo littoral diaspora Truth is the intersection of independent lines --R.Levins 1966 ______ > ... >> > Come on Michael, take your medicine and let this one go, hey? We [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > Ross Macfarlane My little boys, we're wating for more substantial arguments against AAT... :-D _____ >> Oh, I don't think anyone has a problem with being nice. It's just the >> character to whom you are directing all this nice-ness. Certainly [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Rick Wagler >My little boys, we're wating for more substantial arguments against AAT... >:-D [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >> >> Rick Wagler Yeah, I know just what you mean! I am waiting for more substantial arguments against ADT (aquatic dog theory)! Its just so frustrating! ...He weighs just 356 grammes (12ozs) and is being fed on a diet of soya milk. with picture http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_n ews/story/0,3604,1460082,00.ht ml The aye-aye is a creature thought so ugly that in its native jungle superstitious villagers beat it to death - but it has become the pride and joy of Bristol Zoo. At first keepers wanted to call this baby Gollum, after its striking resemblance to the anti-hero of The Lord of Rings, but instead decided on Kintana, which means star in Madagascar, where the aye-aye originates. ... I think McLark is mistaking MV for one of these. Somewhat hard not to after years of agonizing logics ... Instead of trying to be funny, you better tell why you can't find an argument against the hypothesis that the "Homo diaspora" went along the coasts.http://www.onelist.com/community/AAT The answer is simple: you have nothing. _____ > ...He weighs just 356 grammes (12ozs) and is being fed on a diet of > soya milk. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Somewhat hard not to after years of agonizing logics > ... Really, all this over nothing!! If I repost a news alert originally posted by someone else (eg from one of the discussion groups I moderate such as Evolutionary Psychology, Mind and Brain, or Cognitive Neuroscience), I acknowledge them with a thank you. SignatureKind Regards Robert Karl Stonjek :-) Thank you, Robert. Marc Verhaegen http://allserv.rug.ac.be/~mvaneech/Verhaegen.html http://www.onelist.com/community/AAT _____ "Robert Karl Stonjek" <stonjek@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message news:YPU8e.15891$5F3.14861@news-server.bigpond.net.au... > The Scars of Evolution (Aquatic Ape Theory) > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > link (requires 'Real' Audio - free download for player) > http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/shows/rpms/radio4/scarsofevolution.ram Is it allowed to thank me for sending information? Answer: No, it is not... Never do this again, Robert! (And all this, because I say that Homo dispersed along the coasts... http://www.onelist.com/community/AAT :-D Incredible, isn't it?) --Marc Really, all this over nothing!! If I repost a news alert originally posted by someone else (eg from one of the discussion groups I moderate such as Evolutionary Psychology, Mind and Brain, or Cognitive Neuroscience), I acknowledge them with a thank you. -- Kind Regards Robert Karl Stonjek "Robert Karl Stonjek" <stonjek@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message news:YPU8e.15891$5F3.14861@news-server.bigpond.net.au... > The Scars of Evolution (Aquatic Ape Theory) > > > Tomorrow Tuesday at 11GMT on BBC Radio 4, the second part, with new > information on vernix caseosa and on squalene. > http://www.onelist.com/community/AAT > > Part one can be heard on streaming audio (29 minutes) - just click on this > link (requires 'Real' Audio - free download for player) > http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/shows/rpms/radio4/scarsofevolution.ram > > > -- > Posted by > Robert Karl Stonjek (thanks Marc Verhaegen) > > |
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