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Fossil found: can anyone identify it?

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aguedeney@hotmail.com - 15 Sep 2005 00:36 GMT
It was found in a residential backyard ...

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George - 15 Sep 2005 03:28 GMT
> It was found in a residential backyard ...
>
> http://spaces.msn.com/members/aguedeney/PersonalSpace.aspx?_c11_PhotoAlbum_spaHa
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Umm,  All I get is a blank page.
coastwatch - 15 Sep 2005 12:52 GMT
Well, I got a picture. Looks like a very large Gryphea but could do
with a few views from different angles. Hasnt got the typical angular
shape of Exogyra

Cheers
Nigel
Hull East Yorkshire
UK
Dawid Mazurek - 15 Sep 2005 15:39 GMT
My first idea was that it's some kind of nautiloid, but I'm not sure.
Dawid
Dawid Mazurek - 15 Sep 2005 15:52 GMT
I did some googling and coaswatch's idea seems more likely than mine - it's
a bivalve.
Tony Clottens - 15 Sep 2005 19:28 GMT
I think it is a nautiloid : Cymatoceras elegans

Tony

> My first idea was that it's some kind of nautiloid, but I'm not sure.
> Dawid
coastwatch - 15 Sep 2005 19:56 GMT
George - can we see some pictures from other angles please?
Is the plane of the siral flat, or does it twist.
Location - I guess from writing style you are in the USA
Was it there as an ornament, dug up, in gravel or balast, or what?

If it is Gryphea, it is certainly twice the size at least of any I
know.

Nigel
Hull
East Yorkshire
UK
George - 16 Sep 2005 05:38 GMT
> George - can we see some pictures from other angles please?
> Is the plane of the siral flat, or does it twist.
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> East Yorkshire
> UK

Why are you asking me?  I didn't post the picture, and in fact, can't even
view it, for some darn reason.
coastwatch - 16 Sep 2005 12:46 GMT
ooops, my mistake, should have addressed it to Agude.

Picture shows something coiled, the pic does not make it clear but I
think the coiling is slightly helical rather than a planar spiral. A
mobile phone is used for scale, I think it is maybe 20-30 cm across
8-10 inches in old money - there are what I interpret as growth lines
radially, quite coarse which remind me of the growth lines of a Grypea
though it may be an ammanoid/nautiloid in which case could be
ornamentation/ribbing. Only one view, so very difficult to interpret
with certainty hence the request for a few more photos from different
angles.

Cheers

Nigel
George - 16 Sep 2005 21:36 GMT
> ooops, my mistake, should have addressed it to Agude.
>
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>
> Nigel

It would be nice if he would post the picture somewhere else, as I've not
been able to access it (something about the way the security features are
enabled on my browser, I suspect).

George
John Harshman - 15 Sep 2005 21:10 GMT
> It was found in a residential backyard ...
>
> http://spaces.msn.com/members/aguedeney/PersonalSpace.aspx?_c11_PhotoAlbum_spaHa
ndler=TWljcm9zb2Z0LlNwYWNlcy5XZWIuUGFydHMuUGhvdG9BbGJ1bS5GdWxsTW9kZUNvbnRyb2xsZX
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_c02_owner=1

Could it conceivably be an abalone? If so, there will be a line of holes
in the side of the shell not visible in the picture.
Nog - 18 Sep 2005 03:56 GMT
> It was found in a residential backyard ...
>
> http://spaces.msn.com/members/aguedeney/PersonalSpace.aspx?_c11_PhotoAlbum_spaHa
ndler=TWljcm9zb2Z0LlNwYWNlcy5XZWIuUGFydHMuUGhvdG9BbGJ1bS5GdWxsTW9kZUNvbnRyb2xsZX
I%24&_c11_PhotoAlbum_spaFolderID=cns!1pUIR9Ea47dIgAzASoF6EHHg!126&_c=PhotoAlbum&
_c02_owner=1

Looks like a maggot.
michaelmeapayne - 18 Sep 2005 04:32 GMT
> > It was found in a residential backyard ...
> >
> > http://spaces.msn.com/members/aguedeney/PersonalSpace.aspx?_c11_PhotoAlbum_spaHa
ndler=TWljcm9zb2Z0LlNwYWNlcy5XZWIuUGFydHMuUGhvdG9BbGJ1bS5GdWxsTW9kZUNvbnRyb2xsZX
I%24&_c11_PhotoAlbum_spaFolderID=cns!1pUIR9Ea47dIgAzASoF6EHHg!126&_c=PhotoAlbum&
_c02_owner=1

>
> Looks like a maggot.

I have seen these quite often in cretaceous deposits of texas and
briton. They are known as " Devils toenails" to locals. In some places
there are found by the thousands. It Is a type of Oyster.
Glyptodon - 18 Sep 2005 21:12 GMT
Google: "Exogyra Ponderosa" or "Exogyra Erraticostata"

> It was found in a residential backyard ...
coastwatch - 19 Sep 2005 17:37 GMT
> Google: "Exogyra Ponderosa" or "Exogyra Erraticostata"
>
> > It was found in a residential backyard ...

Hmmmm - very different from the lower cretaceous Exogyra here in the
UK, but I am pretty convinced having seen the photos - and certainly it
is way, way larger than I would expect from a gryphea ( Devils Toenail)
- learn something new every day

Cheers

Nigel
Hull
UK
Glyptodon - 22 Sep 2005 06:55 GMT
Our Lower Cretaceous - (Albian - Walnut Formation) Exogyra texana is
likewise very different from this one - but this one is much younger
coming out of the Austin Chalk so early Santonian = Upper Cretaceous in
age. Web page gives age range Early Santonian to Early Campanian. Also
present in the Austin is another small Exogyra,  Exogyra tigrina

> > Google: "Exogyra Ponderosa" or "Exogyra Erraticostata"
> >
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> Hull
> UK
 
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