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Natural Science Forum / Biology / Paleontology / October 2005Darwin and the Bible are in agreement.
As a matter of fact, what Darwin observed in those isolated islands was not out of harmony with the Bible, which allows for variation within a major living kind. All the races of mankind, for example, came from just one original human pair. (Genesis 2:7, 22-24) So it is nothing strange that those different species of finches would spring from a common ancestral species. But they did remain finches. They did not evolve into hawks or eagles. Neither the various species of finches nor anything else Darwin saw proved that all living things, whether they be sharks or sea gulls, elephants or earthworms, have a common ancestor. Nevertheless, many scientists assert that evolution is no longer just a theory but that it is a fact. Others, while recognizing the theory’s problems, say that they believe it anyway. It is popular to do so. We, however, need to know whether evolution has been proved to such an extent that the Bible must be wrong. Zhavahutt <witkowski@shared-secrets.com> wrote in news:1C%%e.99 $2l2.455811@news.sisna.com: > As a matter of fact, what Darwin observed in those isolated islands was > not out of harmony with the Bible, which allows for variation within a [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > know whether evolution has been proved to such an extent that the Bible > must be wrong. And there is so much wrong crap in the bible, that even if evolution were totally false, the bible would still be wrong.  SignatureWoden "religion is a socio-political system for controlling people's thoughts, lives and actions based on ancient myths and superstitions, perpetrated through generations of subtle yet pervasive brainwashing." > Neither the various species of finches nor anything > else Darwin saw proved that all living things, whether > they be sharks or sea gulls, elephants or earthworms, > have a common ancestor. So you're looking at micro evolution and saying that it's not macro evolution. We know that. We also know that if this is the best you can do -- slight of hand -- you haven't a leg to stand on. > Nevertheless, many scientists assert that evolution is > no longer just a theory but that it is a fact. You just said it is a fact. Heck, you went one further and pointed out various examples of evolution being observed. Say, your "finches" for example. See what I mean by "Slight of hand"? You pointed towards an undeniable observation, admitted the fact, then turned around and concluded that it doesn't exist. > Others, while recognizing the theory’s problems, There are no problems. > "Zhavahutt" aka *JABRIOL*/Antonio L Santana/Zod/Gantz > <witkowski@shared-secrets.com> wrote [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > that if this is the best you can do -- slight of hand -- you > haven't a leg to stand on. ===================== Just to let you know who you're trying to reason with. This is JABRIOL from ARJ-W with a new sock-puppet every few hours. He's a Jehovah's Witness *creationist* so you wont get anywhere. Please remove irrelevant NGs if you think you can succeed in teaching him anything where no one else has... thanks. :-) SignatureOrion........ "True, there have been those in times past who predicted an 'end of the world,' even announcing a specific date...The 'end' did not come. They were guilty of false prophesying. Why? What was missing?...Missing from such people were God's truths and the evidence that he was guiding and using them." Awake October 8, 1968, p. 23 NOTE: But when THEY predicted the end and it never came - that was different? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Zhavahutt <witkowski@shared-secrets.com> shamelessly dissembled: >As a matter of fact, what Darwin observed in those isolated islands was >not out of harmony with the Bible, which allows for variation within a [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >ancestral species. But they did remain finches. They did not evolve into >hawks or eagles. Witkowski: Living proof that ignorance and dishonesty are indistinguishable. 1. There are no subspecies of Homo Sapiens Sapiens (Modern Man). 2. Darwin never thought that finches started out as finches, any more than today's epidemiologists thought the HIV virus (A completely different species of virus from any other which is functionally unique and hasn't been around as long as I have) started out as the HIV virus. That, oh Turds of Wrath, *is* 'macro-evolution'. ------------------------------------------------ "The real dichotomy in today's world is between reason and religion. The future of civilisation rests upon how many people realise that and do something about it." D Silverman FLAHN, SMLAHN AA #2208 > Zhavahutt JABRIOL from ARJ-W<witkowski@shared-secrets.com> shamelessly > dissembled: [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Witkowski: Living proof that ignorance and dishonesty are > indistinguishable. ============================== You're trying to reason with another JABRIOL sock-puppet. As a creationist Jehovah's Witness you wont get anywhere..... Just Google Jabriol/evolution/creation/rape and you'll see his crap goes back almost 10 years with him. He's nym-shifting to avoid everyone's killfile. And PLEASE remove unrelated NGs if you're suckered into replying to JABRIOL - such as rec.ponds, ARJ-W and AFN - evolution is completely irrelevant to those groups. Thanks. :-) SignatureOrion...... Wise men stare at the unknown, and boldly asks, WHY? Others... fall on their hands and knees, and start mumbling... (God did it! God did it!) ~ Thus Spake God's Creator ~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~><> ><> > Zhavahutt <witkowski@shared-secrets.com> shamelessly dissembled: > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > 1. There are no subspecies of Homo Sapiens Sapiens (Modern Man). Tes there is, they are call new yorkers! > As a matter of fact, what Darwin observed in those isolated islands was > not out of harmony with the Bible, which allows for variation within a [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > whether evolution has been proved to such an extent that the Bible must be > wrong. The bible was written by middle eastern retards. > Neither the various species of finches nor anything else Darwin saw >proved that all living things, whether they be sharks or sea gulls, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >know whether evolution has been proved to such an extent that the Bible >must be wrong. [...long sigh...] Let me just make a list here. 1. The Bible depicts women's bodies as mere incubators of the man's seed. Today we know women contribute a zygote as well. (In fact, I even think there is a passage in which Jehovah himself tells the Isrealites to round up all the Medianite girls who have not "layed with men". Did God himself not know that women contribute a zygote?) Therefore, the Bible is wrong. 2. The Bible says that two modern human beings appeared magically fully formed somewhere in Iraq. And that around this same time, all other animals on earth were also appeared magically. We now have a window in history when modern homo sapiens appeared. And we have physical evidence of two-dozen hominid species that lived and went extinct before this window. Therefore, the Bible is wrong. 3. You beleive that Heaven is a nether-realm that does not exist in this physical dimension. i.e. Heaven is not anywhere in the observable universe. But in the Bible, Heaven is merely a place way up in the sky. Therefore, the Bible is wrong. 4. The Bible says that there were days elapsing before the sun was created. This is absurd. A "day" is defined as one rotation of the earth near the sun. You don't have "days" without a sun. Therefore, the Bible is wrong. 5. .... therefore, the Bible is wrong. Me and about 12 other people who post here could continue to add to this list until we are blue in the face. When will you people get it? The Bible is Jewish mythology complete with a creation myth. This pattern is seen repeated in various religions. !WAKE UP! And what if what the bible considers evolution is not what physical evolution produces? With the dinosaurs we saw a cascading evolution of predator-prey resulting in larger and larger species until they were selected for extinction. Maybe what we call scientific evolution is the opposite of spiritual evolution. Spiritual evolution might actually produce less robust physical specimens but spawn species that survive on group cooperation and support between individuals. Might the physical factors which drove the evolution of the dinosaurs have been based on competition. ie survival of the fittest, where biblical evolution results in a species which survives on cooperation, ensuring the survival of the meekest? |
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