>If there are logarithmic spirals, there is a Fibonacci series.

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Hi John,
>>Hi John,
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> Thankyou for the info John. I'll try at my local library for the book
> - I wish I had paid more attention to maths at school!
FWIW, Levi-Setti's book is excellent, and not expensive. It's not
exactly a grad-school level book, of course, but is aimed at the
educated or enthusiastic lay-person. The illustrations, especially of
trilobite eyes, are marvellous.
> Can I just make sure I've understood you correctly?:
>
>>If there are logarithmic spirals, there is a Fibonacci series.
The Fibonacci series and the golden ratio can be extracted directly from
a logarithmic spiral. With intersecting logarithmic spirals (going in
opposite directions), the Fibonacci numbers pop out even more obviously.
Check the link I gave earlier - it's got nice examples of the effect in
the structure of a flower head and of a pine cone. The same logarithmic
spirals occur in many other growth patterns.
>>Logarithmic spirals can also be
>>discerned in the arrangement of lenses in schizochroal eyes (albeit difficult to discern)
> Therefore the fibonacci series can be found in (all?) schizochroal
> eyes - or can there be logarithmic spirals without a connection to
> fibonacci?
Intersecting logarithmic spirals are the only arrangement I have heard
of for the lens arrangement in schizochroal eyes with an adequately
large number (hundreds) of lenses. However, some schizochroal eyes had
only some dozens of lenses, so other simple patterns could be argued in
those cases; parsimony might still point to the logarithmic spiral form.
I must also point out that I'm by no means an expert on trilobite eyes.
Best Regards,
John.
P.S. A mathematician might insist on referring to a constant-angle
spiral on the surface of a sphere as a loxodrome. A loxodrome can be
projected onto a logarithmic spiral, so biologists use the latter term
as it's more likely to be understood.
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Loxodrome.html
John Latter - 29 Jan 2006 22:43 GMT
>Hi John,
>
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>educated or enthusiastic lay-person. The illustrations, especially of
>trilobite eyes, are marvellous.
I really do want the 1889 Clarke paper even though - as its no doubt
obvious! - I know very little about trilobites. I've seen other
references to Levi-Setti and if its directed towards an 'enthusiastic
lay- person' then some background info will do no harm at all.
>> Can I just make sure I've understood you correctly?:
>>
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>the structure of a flower head and of a pine cone. The same logarithmic
>spirals occur in many other growth patterns.
I did look at the link before & have bookmarked it - very interesting
stuff!
>>>Logarithmic spirals can also be
>>>discerned in the arrangement of lenses in schizochroal eyes (albeit difficult to discern)
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>
>I must also point out that I'm by no means an expert on trilobite eyes.
But you know a lot more than me & I'm very appreciative of your help!
>Best Regards,
>John.
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>as it's more likely to be understood.
>http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Loxodrome.html
Fortunately I don't think I'll have to get into the maths very much -
at least, not at this stage - at the moment I just want to see what
Clarke had to say and (providing its relevant) then just cite him.
Thanks again :)

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