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Natural Science Forum / Biology / Paleontology / February 2006



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ANTEDILUVIAN MIST - 13 Feb 2006 06:22 GMT
Did humans live among the dinosaurs?
i saw something online that said that there were humans in those times
Francois Sabot - 13 Feb 2006 09:00 GMT
let say that Human line and Dinosaurs lines were separated by around 55
millions years. They were not concomittant at all.

> Did humans live among the dinosaurs?
> i saw something online that said that there were humans in those times
ceb_luv_lotr - 13 Feb 2006 22:51 GMT
Personally, I do think that humans did live among dinosaurs. Why may
you ask? Well, first of all, from a Judeo-Christian perspective, the
Bible talks about dinosaurs. For example, in Job 40:15-24 there is
described a creature called the behemoth whose "tail sways like a
cedar" (vs. 17)  and has "strength...in his loins, [and] power in the
muscles of his belly." (vs. 16) If you read all of it, the descriptions
seem very much like some kind of sauropod.
Also, for a non Judeo-Christian perspective, I have a few questions for
you to chew on. Where did the dragons of the Middle-ages come from? Why
have there been cave paintings found that look strikingly similar to
the body shape of sauropods and theropods?
John Harshman - 14 Feb 2006 03:05 GMT
> Personally, I do think that humans did live among dinosaurs. Why may
> you ask? Well, first of all, from a Judeo-Christian perspective, the
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> have there been cave paintings found that look strikingly similar to
> the body shape of sauropods and theropods?

That's not a Judeo-Christian perspective. That's a creationist-lunatic
perspective. Please try not to confuse the two. The Flintstones is a
cartoon, OK?
ANTEDILUVIAN MIST - 14 Feb 2006 04:35 GMT
Well guys there are many mysteries  still unsolved .
only because there is no proof the people existed  during the dinosaurs
era.  
Its just like ATLANTIS  mentioned by Plato  
John Harshman - 14 Feb 2006 04:55 GMT
> Well guys there are many mysteries  still unsolved .

And there are many solved mysteries too.

> only because there is no proof the people existed  during the dinosaurs
> era.  

Yes, just as there is no proof that the moon is made of cheese.
(Wensleydale?)

> Its just like ATLANTIS  mentioned by Plato  

Agreed. Atlantis is fictional, and so are the Flintstones.
ANTEDILUVIAN MIST - 15 Feb 2006 08:15 GMT
But tell me, how you know it's fictional
George - 15 Feb 2006 08:59 GMT
> But tell me, how you know it's fictional

Umm, burden of proof, dude.  That is for those who make such outlandish
claims, not for those who see it as the obvious hogwash that it is.
Perhaps you aren't familiar with the scientific method.  Not to worry.
There are many universities who teach it.  It isn't too late to get
enrolled.  But for a primer, I refer you to this web site:

http://www.skywise711.com/SeismicFAQ/SeismicFAQMain.html#VIweirdthings
John Harshman - 15 Feb 2006 16:36 GMT
> But tell me, how you know it's fictional

Usenet primer: You have to quote the post to which you are responding,
or nobody will know what you're talking about. This is not a chat room.
I don't know how webtv works, but in a normal news reader, this is
automatic, and you end up with little > signs marking off the quoted
text, as shown above.

I think you're talking about Atlantis here, and that's off topic for
sci.bio.paleontology. But it's fictional because it appears only in a
work of fiction, i.e. a dialog by Plato. There are no physical signs
that it ever existed, anywhere. There are theories about how the legend
might have originated (Thera, Minoan Crete), but the first question you
might ask is whether this is a legend at all, or just something Plato
made up to make a point.
Gary Udovich - 16 Feb 2006 02:36 GMT
I agree Atlantis is off topic - but for those interested I will be posting
to
the alt.atlantis newsgroup starting March 1, 2006
outlining reasons and information sources
about why I think Plato may have been directly on target
about there being pre ice-age civilizations - particularly about atlantis.
I hope to generate some interest and exchange ideas on this topic there.

These postings will have nothing to do with any psychic or new age
claims but will take a serious look into the time directly
before and after the last Ice Age.

I look forward to hering from all of you then.

>> But tell me, how you know it's fictional
>>
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> might ask is whether this is a legend at all, or just something Plato
> made up to make a point.
George - 15 Feb 2006 00:03 GMT
> Well guys there are many mysteries  still unsolved .
> only because there is no proof the people existed  during the dinosaurs
> era.
> Its just like ATLANTIS  mentioned by Plato

The only true mystery left unresolved is why so many still believe this
hogwash.
ANTEDILUVIAN MIST - 14 Feb 2006 04:30 GMT
That is very interesting about the dragons paintings in those caves,
Francois Sabot - 14 Feb 2006 07:37 GMT
The dragons may probably came from either skelotons from dinosaurs or
crocodiles (there were really large ones in this time) or even only from
imagination from painters!
The last dinosaur was killed by the meteor/flu/weather changing/ant
attack/mammal appetite for eggs, but largely before the first appearence of
the first human-like primate...
The Bible is not a scientific reference!
And the Flinstones is also a movie (but the cartoon is much more better)

For the Atlantid, it may be either an entire fairy tale or a really big and
fairy extrapolation from an island sank around the Canaris islands 500 years
before Platon.

> That is very interesting about the dragons paintings in those caves,
 
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