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NOAH'S LARK

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KDC - 03 Jul 2006 01:28 GMT
I just saw a piece on CNN that some Christian archaeologist says he
found Noah's Ark petrified on a mountainside in Iraq!

Is it me or doesn't it take at least tens of thousands of years for
wood to petrify??
Goldmine - 03 Jul 2006 06:09 GMT
>I just saw a piece on CNN that some Christian archaeologist says he
> found Noah's Ark petrified on a mountainside in Iraq!
>
> Is it me or doesn't it take at least tens of thousands of years for
> wood to petrify??

Oh, your confusing science with religion.  Religion is BS, pure and simple.
Don;'t mistake anything related to religion with facts, other than a few
historical artifacts thrown for realism.
But then, that's just my opinion . . . . . .
Shine - 03 Jul 2006 08:29 GMT
> Is it me or doesn't it take at least tens of thousands of years for
> wood to petrify??

Apparently under some circumstances (the exact right ones) wood can
petrify in a shorter amount of time.
This is about the only thing this find has going for it, IMO.
KDC - 09 Jul 2006 03:48 GMT
> > Is it me or doesn't it take at least tens of thousands of years for
> > wood to petrify??
>
> Apparently under some circumstances (the exact right ones) wood can
> petrify in a shorter amount of time.
> This is about the only thing this find has going for it, IMO.

Any idea what is the minimum time for wood to petrify?
Aardvark J. Bandersnatch - 13 Jul 2006 00:18 GMT
>> > Is it me or doesn't it take at least tens of thousands of years for
>> > wood to petrify??
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>
> Any idea what is the minimum time for wood to petrify?

Depends on how much Viagra you took.

Why? are you having some "issues"?
KDC - 16 Jul 2006 20:28 GMT
> > Any idea what is the minimum time for wood to petrify?
>
> Depends on how much Viagra you took.
>
> Why? are you having some "issues"?

LOL. Ah...okay I asked for that. :-)
Neil McNaughton - 03 Jul 2006 13:11 GMT
>I just saw a piece on CNN that some Christian archaeologist says he
> found Noah's Ark petrified on a mountainside in Iraq!
>
> Is it me or doesn't it take at least tens of thousands of years for
> wood to petrify??

It is you. In Yorkshire, England there is a carbonate rich spring (aka
Mother Shipton's well or the 'Petrifying Well') where all manner of items
(e.g. hats) are 'petrified'. The hats are not 10,000 years old - a couple of
hundred according to
http://www.timetravel-britain.com/05/April/shipton.shtml.

KDC - 07 Jul 2006 02:29 GMT
> It is you. In Yorkshire, England there is a carbonate rich spring (aka
> Mother Shipton's well or the 'Petrifying Well') where all manner of items
> (e.g. hats) are 'petrified'. The hats are not 10,000 years old - a couple of
> hundred according to
> http://www.timetravel-britain.com/05/April/shipton.shtml.

I don't think this really counts. It's one thing to encase something in
minerals - is not true petrification *replacement* of material with
minerals?
Basty Castellio - 03 Jul 2006 15:55 GMT
KDC schrieb:

> I just saw a piece on CNN that some Christian archaeologist says he
> found Noah's Ark petrified on a mountainside in Iraq!
>
> Is it me or doesn't it take at least tens of thousands of years for
> wood to petrify??

Oh, there are many internet-sites you can look for "Noah's arc". E.g.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=49203.
You can find it with every search-engine (I want not name only one with
G).  Therefore I typed only "Noah's Arc" and "Ararat" and "foto" OR
"picture".

I think this old  peculiar formation on the Ararat, perhaps as old as
the whole rock mass, could attract (!) the old stories of Gilgamesch
and Noah (and...?); and afterwards one could narrate (!) about a ship
which came above the Ararat.  I suppose also 3,000 years ago one could
see this formation.
In many regions happened the same: peculiar formations (rocks)
attracted/provoked stories; or stories emerged in an other way joined
afterwards with certain formation of landscape.

But - that's an other topic - I think:
also the story/myth of Noah should be acknowledged as a precious
example of treatment of very old human collective fears and esperances.

[Excuse me, my English may be not very good, it's a foreign language.]

Bye, Basty
The Last Conformist - 08 Jul 2006 03:23 GMT
> KDC schrieb:
>
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> which came above the Ararat.  I suppose also 3,000 years ago one could
> see this formation.

It's far from certain that the Biblical "mountains of Ararat" refer to
the mountain today known as Ararat.

It may be noted that pre-1979 editions of the Vulgate has translates it
as _montes Armeniae_ ("mountains of Armenia") - Jerome was apparently
in agreement with the modern scholars who think it refers to
Urartu/Armenia.
 
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