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richard.nacamuli@yahoo.com - 14 Feb 2007 16:26 GMT
While I agree that it is possible that an asteroid impact caused the
extinction of the dinosaurs,
there are other possibilities. The sun's output is not necessarily
constant. There are many variable
stars and a fluctuation of as little as 1% in solar output could have
dramatic consequences.
What was responsible for the ice ages? Also, depletion of atmospheric
carbon dioxide by plants
and organisms could cause a reduction of average temperatures. There
is quite a lot of carbon
locked-up in coal and petroleum and in carbonate rock.
Richard Nacamuli
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John Harshman - 14 Feb 2007 17:33 GMT
> While I agree that it is possible that an asteroid impact caused the
> extinction of the dinosaurs,
> there are other possibilities.

Do any of these other possibilities result in a worldwide layer of
iridium-enriched mud, shocked quartz, and tektites?

> The sun's output is not necessarily
> constant. There are many variable
> stars and a fluctuation of as little as 1% in solar output could have
> dramatic consequences.
> What was responsible for the ice ages?

Milankovitch cycles.

> Also, depletion of atmospheric
> carbon dioxide by plants
> and organisms could cause a reduction of average temperatures. There
> is quite a lot of carbon
> locked-up in coal and petroleum and in carbonate rock.

Any evidence for a sharp climate change at the K/T boundary?
Andy - 14 Feb 2007 17:38 GMT
>> The sun's output is not necessarily
>> constant. There are many variable
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Milankovitch cycles.

But Milankovitch  doesn't explain lack of ice ages in the Devonian,
Triassic, Jurassic ... and more.
John Harshman - 14 Feb 2007 18:10 GMT
>>>The sun's output is not necessarily
>>>constant. There are many variable
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> But Milankovitch  doesn't explain lack of ice ages in the Devonian,
> Triassic, Jurassic ... and more.

I'm sure that oceanic currents influenced by continental distributions
have a lot to say about it. The real question is whether this has
anything to do with the K/T extinction.
deowll - 15 Feb 2007 02:50 GMT
>>> The sun's output is not necessarily
>>> constant. There are many variable
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> But Milankovitch  doesn't explain lack of ice ages in the Devonian,
> Triassic, Jurassic ... and more.

It is claimed that the position of the continents combined with the uplift
that produce the Himalayas triggered the cycle of ice ages.
deowll - 15 Feb 2007 02:49 GMT
>> While I agree that it is possible that an asteroid impact caused the
>> extinction of the dinosaurs,
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
> Any evidence for a sharp climate change at the K/T boundary?

Major geologic changes were occuring but the climate didn't do a significant
cool off until much later to the best of my knowledge.
John Harshman - 15 Feb 2007 04:40 GMT
>>>While I agree that it is possible that an asteroid impact caused the
>>>extinction of the dinosaurs,
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> Major geologic changes were occuring but the climate didn't do a significant
> cool off until much later to the best of my knowledge.

Egzackly.
MyCat - 17 Feb 2007 03:32 GMT
>> While I agree that it is possible that an asteroid impact caused the
>> extinction of the dinosaurs,
>> there are other possibilities.
>
> Do any of these other possibilities result in a worldwide layer of
> iridium-enriched mud, shocked quartz, and tektites?

Please explain the even larger impacts that did NOT result in mass
extinctions.
deowll - 18 Feb 2007 05:14 GMT
>>> While I agree that it is possible that an asteroid impact caused the
>>> extinction of the dinosaurs,
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Please explain the even larger impacts that did NOT result in mass
> extinctions.

A lot of things were going on that could have stressed some organisms. The
impact would have made conditions much worse.

Which larger impacts did not cause mass extinctions?
Gautam Majumdar - 17 Feb 2007 08:46 GMT
>> While I agree that it is possible that an asteroid impact caused the
>> extinction of the dinosaurs,
>> there are other possibilities.
>
> Do any of these other possibilities result in a worldwide layer of
> iridium-enriched mud, shocked quartz, and tektites?

There was certainly a major impact at K-T boundary, but was that the only
cause of the mass extinction ? A major flood basalt eruption was going on
at the same time (Deccan Traps). Several other mass extinctions, such as
end-Permian (Siberian Traps) and end-Triassic (Central Atlantic) mass
extinctions also happened at the same time as major flood basalt
eruptions. Could there not be a cause-effect link between such eruptions
and mass extinction ? On the otherhand evidence for an impact is
non-existent, in spite of quite extensive search, for mass extinctions
other than at the K-T boundary.

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deowll - 25 May 2007 03:59 GMT
>>> While I agree that it is possible that an asteroid impact caused the
>>> extinction of the dinosaurs,
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> non-existent, in spite of quite extensive search, for mass extinctions
> other than at the K-T boundary.

I don't know much about it but there was a localized one in South America.

I listened watched a broadcast that seems to link major impacts with major
basalt flooding events but I leave it to others to fight that war.
 
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