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Age of the Huntsman Limesone (Bulawayan) Stromatolite (UCLA-Bul-7 = P.P.R.G. 253) ?

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mathematician - 15 Feb 2007 17:35 GMT
One important old question of mine below copied (some writing errors
corrected):

What is the exact age (with +- error limits) of the Bulawayan
Stromatolite UCLA-Bul-7=P.P.R.G.253 ?

Hannu

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Subject: Age of the Huntsman Limesone (Bulawayan) Stromatolite (UCLA-
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Hi,

Q0. Could the age of the Bulawayan stromatolite UCLA-Bul-7 be
   3080 Ma + - 60 Ma ?

(Pannella G given name is UCLA-Bul-7, Mode = 10-20-40,
Highest Count = 41, No certain year marks found, Interpretation:
40-41 mean solar days per synodic month at this time)
(= P.P.R.G. 253, in Schopf's (editor) Earth Earliest Biosphere,
Its Origin and Evolution, 1983)

Some background:

Huntsman quarries (1973) was near 19 degrees 43 seconds South,
28 degrees 48 seconds East) where the stromatolite UCLA-Bul-7 =
P.P.R.G. 253 was found from tailings of pile or some of the dumps
(three possible places due sample's founder Dr. Kvenvolden did not
remember anymore which of those three possible (near each others)
places it exactly was).

Geology near the Huntsman quarries:

The succession in descending order is:

Greensone
(dolerite sill)
Greenstone
Upper limestone
Banded ironstone
Lower limestone (with stromatlites)
Quartz sericite schist

Field relations, Huntsman quarries (my remark:
map (geology of near Huntsman quarry) on the
figure is from the year 1973):

1. Dolerite (Intrusive)
2. Greenstone
3. Upper limestone and banded ironstone
4. Quartz-sericite schist
5. Lower limestone and banded ironstone
6. Quartz-sericite schist

3.- 6. = Zwankendaba Member,
2.- 6. = Lower Formation,
2.- 6. = Bulawayan Group

Some text parts from the reference (Bond G., Wilson J. F.,
Winnall N. J., 1973):

"The Huntsman limestone was included without question in
the lower part of the 'Zwankendaba Group' of the 'Lower
Series of the Volcanic Greenstone System', which later
become the 'Bulawayan System' (now Group).
Lenticular limestone is associated with more persistent
Banded Ironstones, and outcrops at intervals for several
miles along the strike.
Limestone has been quarred only at Huntsman, and fossils
are not known from the other limestone occurences."

"Because the outcrop of the Bulawayan Group is continuous
throughout the area, and the Heany, Essexvale and
Bulawayo granites are intrusive into those rocks we
conclude that the age of the Huntsman limestone and its
fossils must exceed 2900 m.y., and is probably greater
than 3000 m.y."

Reference (Prendergast M. D., 2004) gives:

Age of the Bulawayan Supergroup is 2600 Ma - 3000 Ma.

On pages 432-433:

"In this straticgraphic type-section in the Belingwe greenstone
belt (Fig 2), the Lower Bulawayan is represented by the
Koodvale Formation of folded coarse, clastic, and felsic
volcanogenic sedimentary rocks."

On page 439:

"The chronological development of the Bulawayan Supergroup
is at present constrained by very few precize isotopic age data.
The interpretations of four ages (2880 Ma, 2839 Ma, 2698 Ma,
2645 Ma, (some text removed)) are uncertain and beyond the scope
of this paper to discuss."

Q1. Does the 'Lower limestone and banded ironstone' (ref. 1.)
belong to the 'Koodvale Formation (ref. 2.) and, if so then
what is the age of the Koodvale Formation (with + - error limits)?

Q2. Could the 'Lower limestone and banded ironstone' (ref. 1.) be
something else than lower greenstone mentioned in (ref. 2) ?

Q3. In reference (Jahn B-M., Condie K. C., 1976)
got 'preferred' age 3080 Ma +- 60 Ma, could this be
something else than greenstone's age (about 2750 Ma),
for example the age of Bulawayan stromatolite
UCLA-Bul-7 = P.P.R.G. 253 ?

References:

1. Bond G., Wilson J. F., Winnall N. J., 1973
Age of the Huntsman Limestone (Bulawayan) Stromatolites.
Nature, vol. 244, August 3, 1973, pages 275-276.

2. Prendergast M. D., 2004.
The Bulawayan Supergroup: a late Archean passive margin-related
large igneous province in the Zimbabwe craton.
Journal of the Geological Society, London, Vol. 161, 2004,
pp. 431 - 445. Printed in Great Britain.

3. Jahn B-M., Condie K. C., 1976.
On the Age of Rhodesian Greenstone Belts
Contrib. Mineral. Petrol. 57, 317-330 (1976)
(Rhodesia name become later Zimbabwe)

Best Regards,

Hannu Poropudas
Vesaisentie 9E
90900 Kiiminki
Finland
WillE1 - 15 Feb 2007 20:00 GMT
> One important old question of mine below copied (some writing errors
> corrected):
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> 90900 Kiiminki
> Finland

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGIC,GGIC:2006-49,G
GIC:en&q=age+of+the+Bulawayan+Stromatolite
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Will E.
mathematician - 16 Feb 2007 11:21 GMT
> > One important old question of mine below copied (some writing errors
> > corrected):
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> http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGIC,GGIC:2006-49,G
GIC:en&q=age+of+the+Bulawayan+Stromatolite
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> Will E.

Thanks,

I took a quick look about these numerous references. I must read some
of them more closely.

The reason why I have asked this so many times are first big error
limits of age determination of
the sample (+-140Ma gives us about 280 Ma uncertainty!) and also that:

I think that there could be some confusions about formations (names,
upper/lower etc.) of
Huntsmann Limestone Quarries and also the real place is little unclear
where Dr. Kvenvolden
found this stromatolite UCLA-Bul-7 (P.P.R.G. 253) ?

Dr. Kvenvolden said to me (one email) that he found that sample from
tailings of pile or some
of the dumps (there are three possible places due sample's founder Dr.
Kvenvolden did not
remember anymore which of those three possible places it exactly was
(all these places are
quite near each others). Dr. Kvenvolden said also that the exact
location of the sample UCLA-Bul-7
(P.P.R.G. 253) was not determined then.

So what I need are those exact ages of all above mentioned formations
(and their possible
new names) in Huntsmann Limestone Quarries !!!

Hannu
Aidan Karley - 16 Feb 2007 11:51 GMT
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=
GGIC,GGIC:2006-49,GGIC:en&q=age+of+the+Bulawayan+Stromatolite
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> Will E.

      You're suggesting that the GoogleGrouper you're
responding to should go to their library and RTFP? How novel.
Title: Age of the Huntsman Limestone (Bulawayan)
      Stromatolites
Authors: Bond, G.; Wilson, J. F.; Winnall, N. J.
Publication: Nature, Volume 244, Issue 5414, pp. 275-276
      (1973). (Nature Homepage)
Publication Date: 08/1973
Origin:        NATURE
Abstract Copyright: (c) 1973: Nature
DOI:   10.1038/244275a0
Bibliographic Code: 1973Natur.244..275B

      I think it'll be in the stacks down the road. Might
have a look this afternoon.
     
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Aidan Karley, FGS,
Aberdeen, Scotland
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mathematician - 18 Mar 2007 18:36 GMT
> One important old question of mine below copied (some writing errors
> corrected):
[quoted text clipped - 143 lines]
> 90900 Kiiminki
> Finland

I found one old writing:

Wilson,J.F.,Bickle,M.J.,Hawkesworth,C.J., Martin,A. 1978.
Granite-greenstone terrain of the Rhodesian Archaean craton.
Nature, Vol. 271, 5 January, 1978, pages 23-27.

Writers say:
"J.F.W.'s correlations across the greenstone belts also allow the
rationalization of the known occurences
of Rhodesian Archean stromatolites which now number five (Fig.1). All
of these occur in the Upper Greenstones.
... Three occur in limestones above the tholeiitic pile; one at
Belingwe, one south-east of Redcliff ... and
one the Huntsman limestone stromatolites of Macgregor, some 60 km
north of Bulawayo."

Then I found an other writing:

Jelsma,H.A.,Vinyu,M.L.,Valbracht,P.J.,
Davies,G.R.,Wijbrans,J.R.,Verdurmen,E.A.T., 1996.
Constraints on Archean crustal evolution of the Zimbabwe craton: a U-
Pb zircon, Sm-Nd and
Pb-Pb whole-rock isotope study.
Contrib Mineral Petrol (1996) 124:55-70.

Timespan of deposition of Upper Bulawayan greenstones is
2715+- 15 Ma (Iron Mask Formation, ZIM-74) - 2672+- 12 Ma (Harare-
Shamva greenstone sequence, "Black Cat porphyry", ZIM-29).

If UCLA-Bul-7 =(P.P.R.G. 253) belongs in the Upper Bulawayan
greenstones then it's age is somewhat older
than this estimate, because those greenstones were above the formation
where the stromatolite was found by Dr.
Kvevolden.

Can I rely on Dr. Wilson et. all what they said that this stromatolite
belong in the Upper Bulawayan greenstones ???

Hannu
 
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